From owner-cvs-all Wed Nov 6 6:51:14 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766BC37B401; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:51:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D2A43E4A; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:51:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021106145110.ESPZ1928.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:51:10 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gA6EpAu5035098; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:51:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gA6EpAlo035097; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:51:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200211061451.gA6EpAlo035097@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Alexander Langer Cc: Mike Silbersack , Kris Kennaway , Tom Rhodes , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/man/man4 rl.4 In-Reply-To: <20021106143310.GE48049@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> References: <20021106082857.GB14415@rot13.obsecurity.org> <20021106030005.O90236-100000@patrocles.silby.com> <20021106143310.GE48049@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> Comments: In-reply-to Alexander Langer message dated "Wed, 06 Nov 2002 15:33:11 +0100." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-461073172P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 06:51:10 -0800 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_-461073172P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Alexander Langer wrote: > Thus spake Mike Silbersack (silby@silby.com): > > > In this case, the file in question is a manpage rather than a piece of > > source code. The source code remains unchanged (as it should be.) > > The text in question is not descriminating. It just mentions, that > the docs and the design are bad. It's up to one himself if he wants > a cheap NIC and live with malformed data, or if he wants a better > NIC. However, I think it's quite important to tell people at least what > a bad chip they are using, and the driver manpage is the correct place > for this. I'm not sure whether all the people objecting to this commit actually *looked* at the diff, but almost all of the information about the flaws of the rl(4) NIC actually remained intact. Only two sentences were deleted: The RealTek data sheets are of especially poor quality: the grammar and spelling are awful and there is a lot of information missing, particularly concerning the receiver operation. One particularly important fact that the data sheets fail to mention relates to the way in which the chip fills in the receive buffer. The first one deals with the quality of the data sheet...it actually doesn't say anything about the NIC itself. I think that one *can* go away. I'd put the second sentence back, however, because it helps the rest of the paragraph make more sense. Peace, Bruce. --==_Exmh_-461073172P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5+ 20020506 iD8DBQE9ySxe2MoxcVugUsMRAp/yAKD0jrAKubP2GdW2VFwjg4lZwbERVgCfZHfh 3iKCOMabcBqkoTOL9Dp8rB0= =tWWJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-461073172P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message