From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 20 17:27:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789B516A41F for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:27:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torstenvl@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC91443D46 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:27:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torstenvl@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so1623218wra for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:27:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mVeU7uk2D4pi0CuszYO+Qvt9CXdy8xoKhSBrnsup+vM/IemTvwTJq/cZO8bTM0/PGg0c19/vXfYZdCAA7foQGNEIHQiyi3WCCM41m5AnWVvTRRDaKI413irwOObdaeeht6X8DE/Qp8uMuNsOy59CI1EYxcgPRggim27r1sdSmNg= Received: by 10.54.54.72 with SMTP id c72mr163017wra; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:26:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.11.4 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:26:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <126eac48050720102610336c2f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:26:55 -0400 From: Josh Ockert To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507201111.42450.bob89@eng.ufl.edu> Cc: Bob Johnson , freebsd-questions Question Subject: Re: Demon license? (copyright myths) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Josh Ockert List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:27:32 -0000 On 7/20/05, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: >=20 > On Jul 20, 2005, at 9:11 AM, Bob Johnson wrote: >=20 > > IANAL either, but in general, a copyright holder has the right to > > control > > derivative works as well. You can't publish pictures of Mickey > > Mouse without > > permission of Disney, even if you drew the pictures yourself, and you > > (probably) can't publish images of Beastie without Kirk McKusick's > > permission. The fact that he is lenient in enforcing his rights > > does not > > mean that he doesn't have them. > > > > If someone manages to come up with a daemon image that is obviously > > NOT > > Beastie, then they won't have to worry about McKusick's copyright, > > but since > > he is so lenient in granting usage, why bother? > > > > http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html > > > > - Bob >=20 >=20 > This would be true if he had invented or come up with Beastie first. > Is that how it happened? I was under the impression that he just > came up with the most loved form but that previously somewhat similar > images had been used for unix/bsd etc. He still has the right to > derivatives of his beastie but I would suspect that not-so-similar > versions would be OK. But again, IANAL and am not familiar with whole > history >=20 > --- > Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > Your Web App and Email hosting provider > chad@shire.net >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 No I disagree. I'm fairly certain that an independently drawn personified mouse would not be copyright infringement. Calling it "Mickey Mouse" may very well be trademark infringement, however. --=20 Josh Ockert WMU Student: French Linguistics, Computer Science --=20 The irony in biblical creationists' rhetoric of implicitly claiming that God's universe is so inconsistent that carbon decays at erratic rates is too delicious to ignore.