From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 17:06:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE37C16A4BF for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 17:06:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms-smtp-03.rdc-kc.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.166.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E501343FA3 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 17:06:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwilson32@kc.rr.com) Received: from webkl7bcj7ou3q (CPE-65-28-67-59.kc.rr.com [65.28.67.59]) h8905us0005934 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 19:05:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <005501c37666$24368380$3b431c41@webkl7bcj7ou3q> From: "Derik Wilson" To: References: <20030908063856.W80387-100000@moo.sysabend.org> <20030908161846.T32034@12-234-22-23.pyvrag.nggov.pbz> <004901c37665$ec361e50$3b431c41@webkl7bcj7ou3q> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 19:05:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: The Old Way Was Better X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 00:06:02 -0000 By the way, sorry for the nasty spelling. LOL! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derik Wilson" To: Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 7:04 PM Subject: Re: The Old Way Was Better > Like a sid a long time ago. I am a freeBSD newb so as you can guess I like > to learn all I can about freeBSD and anything else for that matter, however, > at the moment, all I see are people bickering about something that they can > no longer control. The release of freeBSD 5.x. This doesn't help. Let's > find a way to learn from this instead of firing opinions at each other about > how we think one release is better than the other. > > Sorry if I am stepping over my boundries but can we talk about the good > things that cam from the new release and maybe some problems that can be > addressed (but not in an offensive manner.) Debates are good when > controlled and guided. > > Thanks all! Keep us newbies alive! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Barton" > To: "Jamie Bowden" > Cc: "Michel Talon" ; > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 6:20 PM > Subject: Re: The Old Way Was Better > > > > On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Jamie Bowden wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Doug Barton wrote: > > > > > > > As for the rest of your post, it's all very interesting, but > incredibly > > > > unlikely to happen. The creation of the RELENG_4_X branches solved the > > > > immediate need for a "stable branch plus security fixes." 5.x is still > > > > -current, and while we do need to be more careful with our marketing > > > > (and more careful with what goes into a 5.x release), massive branch > > > > renaming just isn't going to happen, nor is expanding the number of > > > > branches going to help. > > > > > > Once -STABLE moves from 4.x to 5.x (so that the project is back on > 5.x-R, > > > 5-S, and 5-C), is STABLE once again going to BE stable? > > > > We are delaying the branch in -current until we're reasonably confident > > that the thing is stable enough to use in a production system. Of > > course, as soon as we declare it "stable" then the number of users will > > go up dramatically, and more bugs will be found. This is inevitable. > > > > Doug > > > > -- > > > > This .signature sanitized for your protection > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >