From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Feb 12 18: 7:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (dsl-64-192-6-133.telocity.com [64.192.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AFBC537B417 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 18:07:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 20400 invoked by uid 100); 13 Feb 2002 02:07:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15465.51814.391785.260551@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 20:07:34 -0600 To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: Mike Meyer , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: About your operating system In-Reply-To: <20020213024437.W16164-100000@hades> References: <15464.44508.363090.284294@guru.mired.org> <20020213024437.W16164-100000@hades> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ From: "Mike Meyer" X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.44 (Python 2.2; freebsd-4.5-STABLE-i386) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Giorgos Keramidas types: > Mike Meyer wrote: > > Giorgos Keramidas types: > > > On 2002-02-10 21:56, C J Michaels wrote: > > > > Don't want him going out and buying a USB modem. > > > > Aren't those Winmodems too? > > > Indeed. As a rule of thumb, most USB modems are Winmodems. > > Most? I'm interested in what gives you that impression. > All the USB modems I've seen work good enough with the Windows drivers that > are shipped with the modem, but do not respond to AT commands. That's a "can't tell" situation, as the AT commands are part of the compatability mode. If the modem follows the spec but doesn't provide those - after all, they *are* optional - then it won't work with the -stable umodem driver. There's a chicken and egg problem here. All of the FreeBSD userland software expects a modem that looks like a serial device, not a couple of USB endpoints. So there's no point in providing support for modems that don't look like serial devices. But until that support appears, there's no point in writing userland apps for doing this. Until somebody decides to take the bull buy the horns, get the USB CDC spec, and hack up a userland program so it will talk to the ugen device to do things, nothing much will happen. BTW, if anyone is really interested, I've got an external USB modem that I know works with FreeBSD that I'm not using :-). http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message