From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 12:41:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE6AA106566B; Wed, 6 Jul 2011 12:41:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from smadev.internal.net (host3.dynacom.ondsl.gr [62.103.35.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9128FC0A; Wed, 6 Jul 2011 12:41:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smadev.internal.net (localhost.internal.net [127.0.0.1]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p66Cfpa0019075; Wed, 6 Jul 2011 15:41:51 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id p66CfplF019074; Wed, 6 Jul 2011 15:41:51 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) From: Achilleas Mantzios Organization: Dynacom Tankers Mgmt To: Dale Kline Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 15:41:50 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <201107041339.22470.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> <201107061521.24690.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> <02F3A553C174554DA1D5EC7CEE9BDDD78DA245@THOR.lvc.com> In-Reply-To: <02F3A553C174554DA1D5EC7CEE9BDDD78DA245@THOR.lvc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201107061541.51168.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Cc: "freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org" , Chris Hill , Ian Smith , "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD and controlling an alarm via relay X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 12:41:53 -0000 Cool man, thanx a lot, you and all the guys who answered were really really= helpful. =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 Wednesday 06 July 2011 15:34:30 =CE=BF/=CE=B7 Dale= Kline =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: > OK - now I understand. The relay driven by the computer is a very smart= "switch" which changes the condition of the MCT-100 loop, and causes the = Transmitter to send a signal to another Receiver. So if you wire the relay= connector block to the MCT-100 loop input, it will work fine. That part i= s straightforward. I could not tell if the MCT-100 is current or voltage dr= iven, but it will work with the relay either way. > I'm not familiar with the zoneminder. I'll have to look into that. I wa= nted to do some of that at home to let me know when someone drives into our= driveway. > BTW, I am a hardware person - soldering iron and that stuff. This softw= are is a challenge that I am trying to learn. I am one very small step abo= ve absolute beginner with this FreeBSD code. But volts and amps and ohms,= that I understand. :-) >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@f= reebsd.org] On Behalf Of Achilleas Mantzios > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 8:21 AM > To: Dale Kline > Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Chris Hill; Ian Smith; freebsd-hardwa= re@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: FreeBSD and controlling an alarm via relay >=20 > Hello, not quite. > Here is the idea (which has roughly worked in the past but with "peculiar= "-exotic hardware (e.g. 14.4Kbps modem ) : > 1) FreBSD server runs zoneminder.=20 > 2) A deamon polls zoneminder's sharedmem (IPC) to see if we have any kind= of alert > (motion detection) produced. (that means that we verify that some camera = detected unwanted motion) > 3) Upon motion detection within the above daemon a script is called which= sets some bits in some relay board=20 > 4) this relay board closes a NO circuit or opens a NC circuit in MCT100 > 5) MCT100 talks directly to visonic powermax+ control panel and triggers = a burglar alarm >=20 > I had the above idea working 2-3 years back, with the following differenc= es with regard to the above > a) a http://www.visonic.com/Products/Wireless-Property-Protection/Door-wi= ndow-contact-mct-302 door/window > was used instead of the dedicated MCT-100 xmitter. MCT-302 had an additio= nal hard-wired input (NO/NC/EOL) which behaved > like a distinct zone with its own xmitter, pretty much like the MCT-100 d= oes. Problem with that was that the battery=20 > went off too early and also the contact was completely damaged/malfunctio= ning in the end. That is why i opted > for the more dedicated MCT-100 xmitter which is designed to do just that,= (as you said) sense for difference in current > in the circuit and transimt an event to the powermax+ central panel. >=20 > b) instead of a dedicated-specialized relay board, i was utilizing an old= ZyXel modem, which i had connected in series=20 > with the MCT-302 NC circuit. Normally the ZyXel allowed for current to pa= ss through the circuit. > when the zoneminder-polling daemon detected an unwanted motion detection = it run: > vm shell -l cuad1 -S offhook_onhook.pl > (vm comes with mgetty) > where offhook_onhook.pl looked like: > #!/usr/bin/perl > # > use Modem::Vgetty; >=20 > my $v =3D new Modem::Vgetty; >=20 > $v->device('DIALUP_LINE'); > $v->send("ATH1"); > sleep(2); > $v->send("ATH0"); >=20 > This=20 > $v->send("ATH1"); > sleep(2); > $v->send("ATH0"); > part seemed to do the trick just fine. >=20 > Thing, is that i am thinking these days, of trying either to re-do the ol= d 1.23 zoneminder port for FreeBSD 8.2 > or join bsam@freebsd.org, in his effort to have a fully functioning zonem= inder 1.24 port with local bktr camera support. > Along with that, i want to get rid of the old "MCT-302/ZyXel model" way a= nd try something better and faster. >=20 > That is the whole story, i hope i made it clear enough :) >=20 > =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 Wednesday 06 July 2011 14:55:45 =CE=BF/=CE=B7 Da= le Kline =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: > > Hi, > > I guess I don't understand your application here. The Visonic is a bat= tery operated UHF remote alarm transmitter, that looks at a wired loop for= a change in condition (a door magnetic reed sensor, for example) and then = it transmits an alert to a remote Radio Receiver (MCR-304) if that door ope= ns or closes unexpectedly. The MCT100 has a three volt battery with an ope= rating life of 45 - 50 months according to the spec. It does not need a vo= ltage supply, nor would you want to turn it on and off during operation. > > The Relay boards, on the other hand, are capable of turning on and off = the four or eight relays from your computer commands. The relays are capab= le of switching ANY AC or DC voltage, at a rated current (24 VDC OR 120 VAC= @ 15 Amps and so on). The 5 volt @ 72ma rating is the voltage and current= that the board must supply to make the relay close. > > The green terminal blocks then connect to a floodlight (for example) th= at would turn ON after the UHF Receiver that is listening to the MCT100 Tra= nsmitter indicates that someone has opened or closed the door mentioned in = the first paragraph. > > Am I following what you want to do? > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware= @freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Achilleas Mantzios > > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 5:50 AM > > To: Ian Smith > > Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Chris Hill; freebsd-hardware@freebs= d.org > > Subject: Re: FreeBSD and controlling an alarm via relay > >=20 > > another thing that puzzles me is power. > > This board : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-Eight-Channel-Relay-Board-RS= 232-Serial-Controlled-/110710333092?pt=3DUK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Suppl= ies_ET&hash=3Ditem19c6d99ea4 > > needs VDC 12V supply=20 > > while this one : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-Four-4-Relay-Module-Boar= d-Home-Automation-/180646300804?pt=3DLH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=3Ditem2a0f5bcc= 84 > > is self powered from USB. > >=20 > > batteries do not come cheap, and having an extra AC/DC adaptor is not v= ery good either ... > >=20 > > another thing is the relay parameters, i see various figures : > > Relay parameters: 5V / 72mA, 15A/24VDC (120VAC), 10A/250VAC or > > Each switch 12VDC/15A or 240VAC/10A or > > Open (No) and Closed (NC) Contacts rated for voltages: 12VDC/15A; 24VDC= /15A; 125VAC/15A; 250VAC/10A > >=20 > > my specific application i want to drive is this wireless xmitter : > > http://www.visonic.com/Data/Uploads/MCT_100_Installer_Guide_English_DE2= 241U.pdf > > Should i assume my device that i want my relay to control will have vol= tage of 3V? > >=20 > > for which Voltage/Ampere figures should i opt? are those figures crucia= l? > >=20 > > thanx a lot > >=20 > > =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 Wednesday 06 July 2011 11:03:14 =CE=BF/=CE=B7 = Ian Smith =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: > > > On Tue, 5 Jul 2011, Achilleas Mantzios wrote: > > > > =EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF= =BF=BD Tuesday 05 July 2011 16:10:59 =EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD= =EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF= =BF=BD=EF=BF=BD: > > > > > On Mon, 4 Jul 2011, Achilleas Mantzios wrote: > > > > >=20 > > > > > [snip] > > > > >=20 > > > > > > I was thinking of some relay board (instead of the old modem),= =20 > > > > > > possibly ethernet controlled > > > > >=20 > > > > > This box has relays and GPIO available via ethernet. It's probab= ly=20 > > > > > overkill for your application, but it's well made and easy to us= e: > > > > >=20 > > > > > http://www.extron.com/product/product.aspx?id=3Dipltcr48&s=3D0 > > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > That is too big for my application, thanx anyway. > > > > Most probably i'll go for something cheaper like this one=20 > > > > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-Eight-Channel-Relay-Board-RS232-Seri= al-Controlled-/110710346488?pt=3DUK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&h= ash=3Ditem19c6d9d2f8 > > >=20 > > > These look quite well designed and built to me, reasonably priced new= ,=20 > > > but check out the/a source site [1] for various models, 1- and 4-rela= y=20 > > > boards too, or if you prefer, RS-232 serial rather than USB interface= =20 > > > for the 8-relay boards. There's also a simple parallel port to 8 TTL= =20 > > > outputs board (hi Tim!) and various other stuff. I'm tempted myself. > > >=20 > > > [1] http://sigma-shop.com/category/4/relay-boards.html > > > [2] http://www.sigma-shop.com/page/12/manuals.html > > >=20 > > > > Could i use the ucom driver to talk to the USB device like a norma= l serial device, via /dev/cua*** ? > > > > The above link says one needs to talk to the relay with: > > > > 8 Data, 1 Stop, No Parity,Baud rate : 9600 > > > > and the commands look like: > > > > FF 01 00 (HEX)=20 > > > > or=20 > > > > 255 1 0 (DEC) > > > >=20 > > > > could i be able to specify those over ucom?=20 > > >=20 > > > If so, great. If not and you have a serial port, the code will be th= e=20 > > > same anyway, except the port used. I grabbed most of the manuals fro= m=20 > > > [2] and found the Linux software examples are all this one: > > >=20 > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > Linux : > > > The USB-serial device is automatically detected and mapped to /dev/ > > > ttyUSB0 (or USB1 in case there is already a similar device). > > > My test script: (Thanks Julian!) > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > > # cat relay.sh > > > while true > > > do > > > echo -e "\xFF\x00\x00" > /dev/ttyUSB0 ; sleep .1 > > > echo -e "\xFF\x00\x01" > /dev/ttyUSB0 ; sleep .1 > > > echo -e "\xFF\x00\x00" > /dev/ttyUSB0 ; sleep .1 > > > [..] > > > echo -e "\xFF\x01\x01" > /dev/ttyUSB0 ; sleep .1 > > > echo -e "\xFF\x02\x01" > /dev/ttyUSB0 ; sleep .1 > > > [..] > > > echo -e "\xFF\x07\x01" > /dev/ttyUSB0 ; sleep .1 > > > echo -e "\xFF\x08\x01" > /dev/ttyUSB0 ; sleep .1 > > > echo -e "\xFF\x01\x00" > /dev/ttyUSB0 ; sleep .1 > > > echo -e "\xFF\x02\x00" > /dev/ttyUSB0 ; sleep .1 > > > [..] > > > echo -e "\xFF\x07\x00" > /dev/ttyUSB0 ; sleep .1 > > > echo -e "\xFF\x08\x00" > /dev/ttyUSB0 ; sleep .1 > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > >=20 > > > If using sh[1] you might need to use \0377 instead of \xFF > > >=20 > > > > do you know any application, perl library, utility or just a guide= for standard C serial port programming? > > >=20 > > > Anything that can write bytes to a serial port - perl's overqualified= :) > > >=20 > > > [..] > > >=20 > > > cheers, Ian > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 =2D-=20 Achilleas Mantzios