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Message-Id: <20190714222055.66bdc98838938a893ca4d8e4@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <426C3390-6DA4-4B9D-98B7-AD1831027320@kicp.uchicago.edu> References: <13b9dc8e-f489-afaf-4b2c-e08277e2ecbd@gmail.com> <20190714194416.6948d301.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190714182245.GA2405@c720-r342378> <426C3390-6DA4-4B9D-98B7-AD1831027320@kicp.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 71DE28DA04 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=mJSk/IPW; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.80 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mxbh.socketlabs.com,mxbsg.socketlabs.com]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.90)[-0.901,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.996,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.21)[ip: (-0.56), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(-0.25), asn: 7381(-0.18), country: US(-0.06)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.32)[0.317,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 21:21:06 -0000 On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 15:19:46 -0500 Valeri Galtsev wrote: > As a matter of fact, Android by no means should be considered “Linux > based”. It runs on a Linux kernel, that makes it Linux based IMHO. > (Maemo was one). Even though google used Linux kernel, but to > that they have added big chunk of proprietary code, and whoever says what > that code does will go to prison. Android is open source (Google make all the source available), however nearly every device has proprietary drivers produced by the chipset manufacturer (not Google) with source and/or specifications available only under NDA. The device manufacturer usually also adds proprietary application code. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith