From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 15 07:00:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E568216A423 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:00:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A8043D49 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:00:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 50so48912wri for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:00:24 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lpgPQpXbrz13xl1uSgOhdsafd3bf/fX8VyJzNgx+ZPDUpnj3VYTS7BO1ivnbO4c1t3SXHhY2NYp4DWAOHZxV4nVegi6lkYAAWPSqukcSD0xlllGJ2rtCJ049oLKKsC5fpssq/ZkKAqbeCRmKyzCAeCaxTlgCkr+dL+F3T2Optyw= Received: by 10.54.71.13 with SMTP id t13mr1575707wra; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:00:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.122.7 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:00:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3aaaa3a0603142300i26d87a09q@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:00:24 +0000 From: Chris To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060311045759.89723.qmail@web60014.mail.yahoo.com> Cc: Peter , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Disappointed with version 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:00:47 -0000 On 14/03/06, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Peter > >Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 8:58 PM > >To: freebsd-questions > >Subject: Disappointed with version 6.0 > > > > > >I'm setting up a new server on 6.0 I've been planning for a long time > >and I am very disappointed with two critical issues. My motherboard is > >the ASUS K8V-X SE that I chose because it was listed as compatible at > >the FreeBSD/amd64 Project: > > > >http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64/motherboards.html > > > > Peter, > > That's really a poor choice as a server board. That is basically > a low-end desktop board. VIA isn't known for making top of the > line chipsets. > > I don't know if you have a particular favorite of ASUS, but if your > selecting a motherboard to build a server around from ASUS's product > line you have to dig a bit. ASUS has some server motherboards but > they bury them in their product linueup. Some of the keys to look for > are the existence of RAID on the motherboard, or the name "Premium" > and stay away from any board marketed "for gamers" as a lot of ASUS > boards are. > > For example, a typical ASUS motherboard positioned for the server > market is the P5WD2-E Premium > > >I wonder if going back to 5.4 might help? > > > >Onto the problems... > > > >1. I have 4 IDE drives: > > > >primary controller: Maxtor 40 GB hd (master) and LG cdrom (slave) > >secondary controller: Seagate Barracuda 200 GB hd (master) and Seagate > >Barracuda 300 GB (slave) > > > >Problem: The 300 GB drive is unusable. > > > >I set it up ok with sysinstall during the installation but the system > >will not boot properly if it has an entry in /etc/fstab. I get many > >errors like: > > > >"ad3: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=3D63" > > > > What happens if you set the 300GB as the master on that controller > and do not plug in the 200GB unit? > > >I also get input/output error if I try to examine its label with > >disklabel. > > > >dmesg output is at the end of this post when I booted without fstab > >line. > > > >The strange thing is that the two drives on the secondary controller > >are so similar. Same manufacturer, same product line, the speeds are > >the same. Everything is the same except the size. I ran dos-level > >diagnostics on it and no problems were found. > > > >2. I can't use my USB ports! > > > > What in God's name is a USB peripheral doing on a server? > > I've said it before and I'll say it again, this is why you pay people > to build clones for you. The motherboard manufacturers these days are > coming out with a huge variety of products, and you have to do a lot of > digging through their stuff to find the gems among the junk. > > The professional white box builders out there deal with problems like > yours by returning the motherboard to their distributors and getting > a different model, and testing that. Sometimes they will go through > 4 -5 motherboard models before they find one they feel is a good one. > Then 6 months later the motherboard manufacturers discontinue that model > and they have to go through the same process again. If you want to play > in that space you need to do it the same way they do. If you don't have > the financial resources to do that, then you shouldn't be doing it. > Instead, find a local computer shop that you can pay a few hundred > bucks more than it would cost you to get all the little parts and pieces > separately, and who will warranty the thing. It is well worth it. > > >I get a line like this for each of my ports: > > > > You are wasting time. Return the motherboard and get another. Repeat > the process until it works. > > Ted Sounds harsh, a low end board may have performance problems and less capability but it shouldnt justify an operating system not working, or are only high end boards supported? Chris