From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Dec 3 08:52:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA24120 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 08:52:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA24095 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 08:52:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA08364; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:51:54 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA19783; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:51:52 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:51:52 -0700 Message-Id: <199712031651.JAA19783@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Sean Kelly Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What can we do about Java? In-Reply-To: <34857E98.A0B877C3@fsl.noaa.gov> References: <34857E98.A0B877C3@fsl.noaa.gov> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I realize a lot of FreeBSD users are old Unix hands who tend to turn > their noses up at even the slightest mention of Java Hey, not me! > I get paid to do Java now, and despite all the hype it's really a nice > improvement over C++. My software development times have never been > lower. Plus, management finds it a great way to leverage their > high-powered Unix developers into developing Windows software, and all > without the kicking, the screaming, and (in some cases) the bleating. Sounds like what we're experiencing as well. > I've got the enthusiasm (if not the talent), and I want to help. What > can I do? What can *we* do? Download the source code from Sun after signing their 'educational NDA', get the K.White patches from ...(Looking) http://www.csi.uottawa.ca/~kwhite/javaport.html And port away. I have it on good authority that it should take a couple of weeks to do the port, but I don't have that time to spend. :( Nate