From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Oct 30 8:13:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp003pub.verizon.net (smtp003pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8313837B401; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:13:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from gte.net (evrtwa1-ar4-4-34-145-186.evrtwa1.dsl.gtei.net [4.34.145.186]) by smtp003pub.verizon.net with ESMTP ; id f9UGCc308495 Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:12:42 -0600 (CST) Received: (from res03db2@localhost) by gte.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA36249; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:12:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from res03db2@gte.net) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:12:53 -0800 From: Robert Clark To: John Baldwin Cc: Terry Lambert , Jordan Hubbard , Poul-Henning Kamp , chat@FreeBSD.ORG, Nate Williams Subject: Re: time_t not to change size on x86 Message-ID: <20011030081253.D36195@darkstar.gte.net> References: <3BDE6ED3.64DC027E@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 07:31:49AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm curious, have any of you tried python? What are your opinions? I could not get past the fact that if I wrote a program in Java, I couldn't say so anywhere. All the Sun legalese put me off. Maybe its the attitude I've developed while running such a good OS, but I don't like playing the Sun vs MS game while I code. Thanks, [RC] On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 07:31:49AM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 30-Oct-01 Terry Lambert wrote: > > John Baldwin wrote: > >> My personal peeve with C++ is that is a growth on teh side of C (although at > >> this point it's larger than C..) I prefer the way Java lays out code > >> (functions defined within the class, etc.). Unfortunately, the > >> implemenetations of Java running around aren't the speediest unless you are > >> running !FreeBSD. :-/ Granted, speed isn't needed for all things. > > > > Java has several problems: > > I still prefer it to C++'s problems. :) > > > 1) It can't do multiple inheritance > > Interfaces are like multiple inheritance of pure abstract classes and are > simpler to get right. > > > 2) You can instance classes without constructing them (the > > JavaMail API has a number of examples of this) > > So? > > > 3) Strong typing is for weak minds > > Or lazy ones. :) I wouldn't use Java for OS hacking, but for applications, > strong typing is more useful. > > > -- Terry > > -- > > John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ > PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc > "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message