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([2601:601:800:126d:ed5d:a:1763:4637]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 7sm47188562pfn.89.2016.01.20.01.25.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 20 Jan 2016 01:25:52 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: Now I am aware From: NGie Cooper In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 01:25:51 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7A90BDBB-2311-4B9D-9C43-BD4B8A128DFA@gmail.com> References: To: Joe Nosay X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 12:27:01 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 09:25:54 -0000 > On Jan 19, 2016, at 09:21, Joe Nosay wrote: >=20 > of how self-centered and selfish all of you are. (Removing @FreeBSD.org hat and also removing some of the individuals on = the mailing lists and moving the public mailing lists to BCC) Hi Joe, It=E2=80=99s difficult proposing things like you are and have = been in the past (especially when the world is very much driven by = currency). I thought that the idea was a noble social endeavor, even if = it was a bit rough planning wise to commit resources to in what you had = presented. The FreeBSD community (in and of itself) has a limited number = of resources tackling several issues on multiple fronts (many of which = might be encouraged/driven by our employers), and not all of us might = have your interests and ideas in mind for FreeBSD (diversity of = thought). My focus and interests in FreeBSD are stability, quality of = the operating system, testing, repeatability, etc. My days of tinkering = with Unix on a desktop or laptop (anything non-ChromeOS, non-OSX, or = non-Windows, e.g. FreeBSD, Linux, OpenSolaris) came to an end a couple = years ago because I=E2=80=99ve found that running Unix (in particular = X.org based Unix) is a time sink that I no longer am interested in = committing to (I=E2=80=99ve run Fedora/Gentoo Linux on desktops/laptops = with limited success as well as FreeBSD with limited success on laptops = over the years [*]), especially when other vendors (Adobe in particular) = look at Unix and decide to decommission support for their products. Outside of my =E2=80=9C9-5=E2=80=9D (in reality 10+ hour days), = I focus on friends and social and political issues that have been = impacting communities that I=E2=80=99m a part of (LGBT issues, = #blacklivesmatter issues, housing issues in Seattle, etc), as well as = myself personally (self-care is a good thing to practice to avoid = emotional, mental, and/or physical burnout). Like I recommended before in private, I think you need to find = the right audience of people who understand and have similar interests = in what you=E2=80=99re trying to achieve in order to discuss and = cultivate your ideas with, and bring it to the maturity that it needs to = be at in order to be accepted and adopted. Having a team of advocates to = work with will help with your endeavor. What you=E2=80=99ve proposed = before is not a simple undertaking: it involves several moving parts = that aren=E2=80=99t currently available as well as a vision to drive = these from design to end-result, unless you have an engineering = organization that you can fund (or lots of sports drinks and long = sleepless nights to commit to in order to achieve the work=E2=80=A6 but = beware =E2=80=94 this leads to burnout). I really hope whatever living situation you=E2=80=99re dealing = with improves. I can empathize with it having been exposed to several = friends and acquaintances who=E2=80=99ve been at the short end of the = stick lately housing wise in the Seattle area. Take care and I wish you the best, whatever the outcome. -NGie * The best laptop experience I=E2=80=99ve ever had was FreeBSD on an = ASUS Netbook 4 years ago, which (unfortunately) was completely = underpowered and underspec=E2=80=99ed (all of my other laptop = experiences have been utter failures due to proprietary drivers, lack of = suspend/resume, reliable wireless support, etc). It couldn=E2=80=99t = build FreeBSD ports reasonably, and the wired NIC port wouldn=E2=80=99t = properly reset the PHY every time I unplugged the cable on it (so once I = unplugged the CAT6 cable it would stop transmitting data). Eventually I = donated the Netbook to someone else because I had far too many computers = to split my attention between. On the bright side, I got it to do source = builds, wireless, suspend and resume (on i386 which was unheard of back = then=E2=80=A6 thanks jkim@!!), and fluxbox on a tiny 12=E2=80=9D screen = =E2=80=94 which was better than PCBSD at the time :)!=