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Date:      Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:01:43 -0600
From:      Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net>
Cc:        "Robert N. M. Watson" <rwatson@freebsd.org>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: CTF patch for testing/review (was: Re: is dtrace usable?)
Message-ID:  <33755363-49D9-46C4-9EEC-2951ED263C86@samsco.org>
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Actually, I'll withdraw my patch, I like Alexander's better, with the exception that CTF should be opt-in, not opt-out.

Scott

On Mar 22, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Scott Long wrote:

> On Mar 22, 2010, at 7:41 AM, John Baldwin wrote:
>> On Monday 22 March 2010 7:34:08 am Alexander Leidinger wrote:
>>> Redirecting from stable@ to arch@...
>>> 
>>> Quoting John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> (from Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:12:29 
>> -0500):
>>> 
>>>> On Wednesday 10 March 2010 5:34:22 am Alexander Leidinger wrote:
>>>>> Quoting "Robert N. M. Watson" <rwatson@freebsd.org> (from Tue, 9 Mar
>>>>> 2010 16:39:09 +0000):
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 9, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From this you can see that sys.mk is included and parsed before
>>>> 'Makefile',
>>>>>>>> so the WITH_CTF=yes is not set until after sys.mk has been parsed.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I think we need to find a different solution for this. The need to
>>>>>>> specify WITH_CTF at the command line is very error prone. :(
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You are neither the first person to have made this observation, nor
>>>>>> the first person to have failed to propose a solution in the form of
>>>>>> a patch :-).
>>> 
>>> Ok, here is the proposal in form of a patch. :-)
>>>    http://www.leidinger.net/test/ctf.diff
>>> 
>>>> Unfortunately the ctf stuff breaks static binaries.  I think that if  
>>>> that were
>>>> fixed we would simply enable it by default and be done.
>>> 
>>> The patch is:
>>> - enabling CTF stuff by default for the kernel
>>> - allows to disable the CTF stuff for the kernel by defining NO_CTF
>>> - *not* enabling the CTF stuff by default for libs and progs
>>>   (if someone tells me how to distinguish the build for static
>>>   stuff from dynamic stuff, I can have a look to enable it for
>>>   the dynamic case)
>>> - allows to enable the CTF stuff for the userland by defining
>>>   WITH_CTF as before
>> 
>> I think this patch looks very interesting.  I think in some ways it would be 
>> nice to make CTF "opt-in" though instead of "opt-out".  I think the current 
>> patch would enable CTF when building ports, for example.   I think instead it 
>> should default to not building CTF, but require an ENABLE_CTF (instead of 
>> NO_CTF) to be set, and set that in bsd.kern.mk if WITH_CTF is defined.
>> 
> 
> I have a patch at Yahoo that makes WITH_CTF settable from the kernel config file, thus making it opt-in.  I'd prefer this as well to opt-out.  Give me a little bit to dig it up and polish it for review.
> 
> Scott
> 
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