From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Mar 8 22:01:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA09270 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 22:01:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fang.cs.sunyit.edu (root@fang.cs.sunyit.edu [192.52.220.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA09261; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 22:01:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perlsta@cs.sunyit.edu) Received: from win95.local.sunyit.edu (A-T34.rh.sunyit.edu [150.156.210.241]) by fang.cs.sunyit.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA01396; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 02:02:19 GMT Message-ID: <00a801bd4b20$32c8d0a0$0600a8c0@win95.local.sunyit.edu> From: "Alfred Perlstein" To: "Greg Lehey" , "Terry Lambert" , "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: , , Subject: Re: WINE (was: Uncle Sam, got a million bucks?) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 00:52:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG regarding winse.. not enought volenteers, not enough documentation on how to code for it... -Alfred -----Original Message----- From: Greg Lehey To: Terry Lambert ; Jordan K. Hubbard Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com ; perlsta@cs.sunyit.edu ; dkelly@hiwaay.net ; hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sunday, March 08, 1998 6:08 PM Subject: WINE (was: Uncle Sam, got a million bucks?) >On Mon, 9 March 1998 at 2:27:50 +0000, Terry Lambert wrote: >>> Wine has always required more than a "little push", it's required a >>> Saturn rocket up the ass. When compared to real solutions like SoftPC >>> from Insignia solutions, it's not even close to being sufficient for >>> the intended purpose (running popular Win95 binaries, in case people >>> forgot) and I doubt that it ever will be. >> >> I agree with Jordan on this one. Even quadrupling my time estimates, >> I come out with under 3 years for a small 5 man team to make a WIN32 >> capable of running MicroSoft Office. The 5 coders would have to be >> *serious* about getting the job done. The WINE project, though well >> intentioned, just doesn't seem very serious to me. 8-(. > >OK. This agrees with what I've seen. Maybe they're just not the >world's best hackers. Is anybody interested in doing better? What >are the real problems with doing it right? It seems to me that the >most difficult one is getting documentation, but even a big API is >still finite. Comments? > >Greg > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message