From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 28 04:51:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 380CE16A4CE for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 04:51:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.village.org [168.103.84.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE22A43D31 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 04:51:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by harmony.village.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i8S4ngsv090574; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 22:49:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 22:50:56 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20040927.225056.85393812.imp@bsdimp.com> To: arne@rfc2549.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <86fz5341hh.fsf@kamino.rfc1149.org> References: <16728.36042.147168.928629@satchel.alerce.com> <1096323166.43375.8.camel@server.mcneil.com> <86fz5341hh.fsf@kamino.rfc1149.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 04:51:07 -0000 In message: <86fz5341hh.fsf@kamino.rfc1149.org> Arne Schwabe writes: : Sean McNeil writes: : : : >> Yeah, I'm an old weirdo [who also uses emacs a lot]. I grew up with : >> the control key being that big sucker just to the left of the 'A' key, : >> and reaching down and under to the bottom row bothers my left : >> wrist/hand. I'm otherwise keyboard agnostic (I don't care where the : >> esc key is, I just use ctrl-[ and I'm used to figuring out just what : >> the BS/Del key sends) but the ctrl key is important. Fortunately, on : >> PC hardware, it's easy enough to get it where i want/like/need it. : > : > I see what you mean. But they moved that a long time ago. I'm amazed : > you have managed to stick with the old positioning. The feel of a : > Logitech keyboard is pretty sweet. : : Hey, you can still buy a Sun Type 6 USB Keyboard with UNIX Layout : (note US Layout is different from UNIX Layout), where escape, : backspace and control have strange locations :) Happy Hacking Keyboard is to die for. It is the one true keyboard layout and all this PC, Johnny-come-lately crowd who F*D up a perfectly good keyboard layout can rot in h*** for all I care. The USB version even has two additional USB slots: mouse and memory card or cell phone work well there :-). Of course, the HHK is just a Sun Type 3 keyboard, with an inverted T arrows added. Sweet feedback on the keys, and really worth the price of a ticket to Japan to pick it up at PlatHome in Akihabara :-). Warner