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Date:      Sun, 17 Jul 2011 03:26:13 -0700
From:      Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Chris Rees <crees@freebsd.org>
Cc:        ports@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>, perl@freebsd.org, skv@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: RFC: change to bsd.perl.mk
Message-ID:  <4E22B8C5.1070700@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <CADLo83-TWjnZFPCY55T9B=PmFpWJkZOZ9JxS3ezENfFT%2BJKiAw@mail.gmail.com>
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On 07/17/2011 03:07, Chris Rees wrote:
> On 17 July 2011 01:47, Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org> wrote:
>> On 07/16/2011 17:35, Mark Linimon wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 10:51:04PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote:
>>>> If it's unconditionally included, how does that exempt it from exp-runs?
>>>>
>>>> Surely it's equally risky to commit to it as bsd.port.mk, or have I missed
>>>> something?
>>>
>>> In a perfect world we'd have -exp runs for everything, I suppose.  OTOH
>>> here in the real world there's plenty of lower-risk changes that can be
>>> done without.  If in doubt, we can always do one.
>>>
>>> Take a look a the various commits in ports/Mk for examples of what's
>>> been done in the past.
>>
>> A) If the file is unconditionally included the idea of administrative
>> separation is false security. There is no reason that the appropriate
>> perl folks can't have permission to twiddle that stuff in bpm.
>>
>> B) Focusing on this part of the problem detracts from the more important
>> point that the thing should be conditionally included, and that whatever
>> needs to be fixed to make that happen should be fixed.
>>
> 
> Doug,
> 
> Am I right in thinking from your comments in the past that you would
> be willing to form a team to achieve this goal?

Yes.

> I think you're right, and it should be done -- count me in.
> 
> Chris
> 



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