From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Dec 31 0:29:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3D637B401 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 00:29:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org (hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org [64.239.180.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7450343EC2 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 00:29:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@jetcafe.org) Received: from hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBV8Sn179280; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 00:28:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org) Message-Id: <200212310828.gBV8Sn179280@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Terry Lambert Cc: dever@getaclue.net, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 00:28:44 -0800 From: Dave Hayes Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry Lambert writes: > Dave Hayes wrote: >> Terry Lambert writes: >> > Why? >> > Even unlimited freedom of speech is not a guarantee of an audience. >> >> This is the argument used by people who wish to fool people into >> thinking there is no freedom of speech. I will refrain from addressing >> it here. > > Again, why? I believe in the (acknowledged by the 4th ammendment) > right to free speech. That doesn't mean that people have to listen > to me, or to take what I say to heart, as if it were gospel. The > right of someone to proselytize me stops at the point I slam my > front door in their face. You are not allowed to place your hand on their jaw and close their mouth. > Your argument is that I should not be allowed to close my own door, > or to buy locks for that door from a third party. Nope, not even close. >> > Do you spend as much energy bitching at your local cable television >> > company for not putting you on the air to voice your philosophy to >> > the masses? >> >> Heavens no, my philosophy is not for everyone. It's only for those who >> are willing to understand. ;) > > Understanding is not a guarantee of acceptance or acquiesence. You presume I want either state. I don't. All I "want" is for people to let others make their own decisions. The arguments you present lead to exactly the opposite state. ------ Dave Hayes - Consultant - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org >>> The opinions expressed above are entirely my own <<< "If a man does keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer." - Henry David Thoreau To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message