From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 16:53:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A65F16A4CE for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 16:53:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from gw.catspoiler.org (217-ip-163.nccn.net [209.79.217.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0464443D53 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 16:53:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Received: from FreeBSD.org (mousie.catspoiler.org [192.168.101.2]) by gw.catspoiler.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i080rB7E018134; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 16:53:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200401080053.i080rB7E018134@gw.catspoiler.org> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 16:53:11 -0800 (PST) From: Don Lewis To: wegster@mindcore.net In-Reply-To: <3FFCA255.4000806@mindcore.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org cc: yurtesen@ispro.net.tr Subject: Re: FreeBSD Crashes with AMD X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 00:53:22 -0000 On 7 Jan, Scott W wrote: > Daniel O'Connor wrote: > >>On Thursday 08 January 2004 09:53, David O'Brien wrote: >> >> >>>>or so ago was very reasonably priced at the time and performs well. My >>>>suspicion is that the recent lack of ECC support may be due to AMD >>>>wanting to move "serious" users over to their new 64 bit architecture. >>>> >>>> >>>No, the problem is AMD isn't updating the 761 chipset to do 333 or 400 >>>FSB -- thus few want to use that chip set today. AMD is not presureing >>>VIA, ALI, nVidia, etc... to not produce ECC supporting motherboards. >>> >>> >> >>Double negative? :) >> >>It certainly irritates the crap out of me that you can't seem to buy an ECC >>board that will fit a modern Athlon in it :( >> >> >> > I'm pretty sure the current line from Tyan does. I've got an S2466 > which isn't the most current (266 MHz FSB, although the FSB ratings are > truly misleading IMHO) which supports up to Athlon MP 2800+ CPUs SMP, or > single Athlon XPs, with a gig of ECC RAM in it as we speak. I haven't > been completely thrilled with Tyan, primarily due to their pretty > limited BIOS and seeming incinations to not release many updates for > their boards, but it works well enough....I'm sure the 'replacement' to > the 2466 will continue to handle ECC any any decent server board will > (even if for some reason the 2466 doesn't have onboard SCSI :-( ) The fastest XP with a 266 MHz FSB that I found is the 2400+ which is a lot slower than the XP 3200+ with a 400 MHz FSB. There are faster MPs, but they are more expensive than the equivalent XPs. If you are content with a 266 MHz FSB, the few remaining AMD-761 uni-processor boards are a lot cheaper than this board. On the other hand, Intel 7205 based P4 boards are cheap, support ECC RAM, and support processors up to 3 GHz and 533 MHz FSB.