From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon Sep 10 10:52:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A8D37B403; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8AHqeZ10670; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:52:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:52:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200109101752.f8AHqeZ10670@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: jason@dstc.edu.au, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.4 upcoming release/timetabling/mirroring In-Reply-To: <20010910093357K.jkh@freebsd.org> References: <20010420111439.Q5017@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> <20010910093357K.jkh@freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org < said: > There won't be any one person taking charge of all the mirrors, the > mirrors will have to rely on their individual admins to keep things > straight. Sounds like you totally missed Jason's point, again. The people who run the mirrors need to know IN ADVANCE from the release-engineering team how much data to expect and when. My mirror job was running several days behind last week since you did not give me (and all the other mirror operators) an opportunity to clear out sufficient disk space for 4.4-RC4. This is a substantial investment of resources on our part, and a small effort on your part is not unreasonable to ask. Furthermore, if the mirrors are to do any good at all, you need to wait at least 24 hours after putting the bits on ftp-master. Most people's mirror jobs run once a day, in the early hours of the morning. I'm not going to sit here manually pushing the button every few minutes just in case you put something up -- I do have an actual job I'm supposed to be doing here -- but I'm perfectly willing to manually grab the bits *given timely notice*. If you publish the files first in 600 mode (readable only by whatever user runs rsyncd on ftp-master), then it would be possible for all of us to get the files well in advance without making the bits available until all the t's are crossed. (Assuming the mirror operators do like I do and run rsync under a different uid than ftpd runs under.) -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message