Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2017 14:34:57 -0800 From: "Chris H" <bsd-lists@BSDforge.com> To: "Carmel NY" <carmel_ny@outlook.com> Cc: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>" <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth? Message-ID: <f93d424ad371ba61adf86fd6502eb448@udns.ultimatedns.net> In-Reply-To: <BN6PR2001MB173021B0A3CFE6E9A15C29F4803F0@BN6PR2001MB1730.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>
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On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 22:04:15 +0000 "freebsd-ports@freebsd=2Eorg>" <freebsd-por= ts@freebsd=2Eorg> said > On Sunday, December 3, 2017 3:46 PM, Chris H stated: > > On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 11:53:58 +0000 "FreeBSD Ports ML" <freebsd-> > > ports@freebsd=2Eorg> said > > > On Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:40 AM, Stari Karp stated: > > > > On Sat, 2017-12-02 at 01:12 +0000, Ben Woods wrote: > > > > > Hi Carmel, > > > > > > > > > > My understanding is that poudriere is the only package building > > > > > system that is officially supported by the portmgr, apart from ra= w > > make=2E > > > > > > > > > > There are many other nice ports building tools contributed by the > > > > > community, which each have their niche market, but the maintenanc= e > > > > > of those tools is a community responsibility also=2E > > > > > > > > > > The announcement of impending flavors and breakage of package > > > > > building infrastructure that doesn=E2=80=99t support it was some = time ago > > > > > (I believe at least 6 months), with a number of reminders since > > > > > then=2E If a community > > > > > > > > > Yes, 6 months but IMO ports maintainers have still 2 or three month= s=2E > > > > They "pushed" flavors out to early=2E I do not why=2E > > > > > > Well, I certainly have no intention of installing and then learning > > > how to use an industrial sized solution line poudriere for a > > > relatively small home network=2E > > > > > > I am hoping that someone can get "synth" back up and working > > > correctly=2E If not it might be time for me to look at another OS for m= y > > > network=2E > > > > > > Looking back at other port management utilities like "portmanager", > > > "portmaster", "portupgrade" and now "synth", The FreeBSD team has > > done > > > a pretty good job of obfuscating and rendering them impotent=2E Which > > > brings me to what happens if I do embrace "poudriere"=2E How long befor= e > > > that becomes history also? > > port-mgmt/poudriere gets the attention, and maintenance that it does, > > because it was created, and is maintained by someone with a commit bit > > (bdrewery)=2E > > port-mgmt/synth was also created, and maintained by someone with a > > commit bit (jmarino)=2E > > However, John's commit bit was taken away=2E While I'll not comment as to > > why, nor elaborate on my personal stand/feelings regarding that action=2E= I > > can > > say that he has superseded synth with an application called Ravenports[= 1]=2E > > I also attempted to take on ports-mgmt/portmaster early on in my > > endeavors as a ports maintainer=2E However, that experience also didn't g= o > > well, and I'll not bog this thread down with the details=2E My main inten= t for > > my > > reply, is simply to indicate as to why history has been the way it has > > regarding > > the other ports management utilities, and to indicate there is another > > possible solution, that was not previously mentioned=2E That I thought yo= u > > (and others?) might be interested in=2E :) >=20 > I just checked out < > https://github=2Ecom/jrmarino/Ravenports/wiki/quickstart-freebsd>=20 > and < http://ravenports=2Eironwolf=2Esystems/>; and I have to admit that I am > interested=2E=20 > I am wondering if it will ever get accepted into the ports system=2E Are you looking to become Maintainer for it? :) Honestly, I'd have already volunteered=2E But I'm between hardware right now=2E My dev box died, and I haven't yet decided on the hardware I want to get to replace it=2E So unless someone else decides to take it on before I do=2E I'll push it into the ports system=2E tl,dr; Yes=2E As soon as I, or someone else volunteers to do so=2E Maybe you? :) >=20 > --=20 > Carmel --Chris
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