From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 1 16:10:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B783C03; Tue, 1 Apr 2014 16:10:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vc0-x232.google.com (mail-vc0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c03::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3232D9B9; Tue, 1 Apr 2014 16:10:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f178.google.com with SMTP id im17so9839160vcb.23 for ; Tue, 01 Apr 2014 09:10:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VmcQDsc/kaPsU7D+zENzNSUUBCpWO4GhOvLmJmrykOc=; b=VDE2TQBxAho2uMiTJAjR8nRrLwkG+Y6dipqbTe4tJSRsSZz91XC1knEfb47PXgl5Xe Nf2VYwp6EOSRrtUMsStO/dlZAuC9Y70Wi8NPVyMnUjgcYuOgp7npTcXOiCVqqO0eiR6d z0DqG1pNVq659+oF0Gi/RFWVM6nhHg7SQMA0ImoXAb9EM9s7ad6J5fnQOFb0e+MKZ6Kr RfoP+avyVjABwamjr41H6Raq54jAuolPK8mP/CO2Gl/g8r0IsbN+v+8vNYoZlX2koxSa pZvia9/IKSQAUUBgmwNkrlOXyqN4HoBMW8+1gFLYhAObllX2Cr7OAwXM0wMHrlCkLeuC D8Jg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.77.101 with SMTP id r5mr33528vdw.63.1396368648916; Tue, 01 Apr 2014 09:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Sender: sektie@gmail.com Received: by 10.221.6.70 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Apr 2014 09:10:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 09:10:48 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: GHFMpej5D67ojGOwoHZQS3Q9PNI Message-ID: Subject: Re: Leaving the Desktop Market From: Randi Harper To: Jordan Hubbard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, "FreeBSD, Advocacy" X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2014 16:10:50 -0000 On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:11 AM, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > > There is no such thing as a desktop market for *BSD or Linux. There never > has been and there never will be. Oh, god. I'm going to wake up for this mailing list just to say this: You know you opened a can of worms with that one. Because all the nerds are going to step up and say "Well, I run FreeBSD on my desktop! It's totally viable!" Dear nerds, get some perspective. You aren't an end user, and you're masochistic. It's okay, we accept you here. But your individual use case doesn't indicate a place in the market. Your basement isn't a market. It's a basement. Your small company isn't a market. It's a small company. Many companies combined create a market. Back to sleep.