From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 7 18:25:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A800E16A41F; Sun, 7 Aug 2005 18:25:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from delphij@frontfree.net) Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org (tarsier.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42FDA43F4B; Sun, 7 Aug 2005 18:25:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from delphij@frontfree.net) Received: from beastie.frontfree.net (unknown [219.239.99.7]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09186EB0A8C; Mon, 8 Aug 2005 02:25:01 +0800 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost.frontfree.net [127.0.0.1]) by beastie.frontfree.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCFC513893A; Mon, 8 Aug 2005 02:24:59 +0800 (CST) Received: from beastie.frontfree.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (beastie.frontfree.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 60486-17; Mon, 8 Aug 2005 02:24:52 +0800 (CST) Received: by beastie.frontfree.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6EB431387CC; Mon, 8 Aug 2005 02:24:51 +0800 (CST) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 02:24:51 +0800 From: Xin LI To: Colin Percival Message-ID: <20050807182451.GB61057@frontfree.net> References: <42F60443.2040301@freebsd.org> <20050807.231125.26489231.hrs@allbsd.org> <42F61960.4020400@freebsd.org> <20050807.100622.54623722.imp@bsdimp.com> <42F63353.7030707@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+g7M9IMkV8truYOl" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42F63353.7030707@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-key-ID/Fingerprint: 0xCAEEB8C0 / 43B8 B703 B8DD 0231 B333 DC28 39FB 93A0 CAEE B8C0 X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.delphij.net/delphij.asc X-Operating-System: FreeBSD beastie.frontfree.net 5.4-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p6 #4: Thu Jul 28 10:59:26 CST 2005 delphij@beastie.frontfree.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BEASTIE i386 X-URL: http://www.delphij.net X-By: delphij@beastie.frontfree.net X-Location: Beijing, China X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at frontfree.net Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/portsnap vs. /var/db/portsnap X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2005 18:25:10 -0000 --+g7M9IMkV8truYOl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 07, 2005 at 09:14:11AM -0700, Colin Percival wrote: > M. Warner Losh wrote: > > In message: <42F61960.4020400@freebsd.org> > > Colin Percival writes: > > : very little reason for anyone to be running > > : a portsnap mirror unless it's a public mirror, > >=20 > > Our experience with cvsup would suggest otherwise. Many places with > > large numbers or even small numbers of machines run cvsup mirrors that > > are private. I expect that universities will want to run mirrors that > > they might not want non-students accessing (eg, internal bandwidth is > > free, external is expensive). >=20 > Portsnap !=3D CVSup. In particular, an HTTP proxy which is used by five > hundred users running portsnap will use less bandwidth than a portsnap > mirror. The "right" solution for nearly all organizations is a caching > HTTP proxy. I must say that HTTP proxy-able is the 1st reason why I like portsnap. There are so many people asking "Hey, how can I break the firewall that blocks cvsup connection?" Where I can only say "The only solution at this time would be to negotiate with the local network administrator" in the pre-postsnap age. Using CVSup to synchonorize CVS tree while distributing ports tree through portsnap looks quite convinent for these people. Cheers, --=20 Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ See complete headers for GPG key and other information. --+g7M9IMkV8truYOl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFC9lHz/cVsHxFZiIoRAuS6AJ98yt/UhDQHqVVnK1qNTNIFHJh+rwCeMtdM D6NP7a+mhpL4iEz0jZhXI1U= =qjfi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+g7M9IMkV8truYOl--