From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 22 11:47:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE30AD6E for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:47:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D27F8FC0A for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:47:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9MBl4Un032056; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:47:04 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <50853238.6060508@qeng-ho.org> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:47:04 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121013 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andrew clarke Subject: Re: pkgng and the old pkg_* programs References: <50842C6E.9070800@qeng-ho.org> <20121022101753.GA51392@ozzmosis.com> In-Reply-To: <20121022101753.GA51392@ozzmosis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:47:07 -0000 On 10/22/12 11:17, andrew clarke wrote: > On Sun 2012-10-21 18:10:06 UTC+0100, Arthur Chance (freebsd@qeng-ho.org) wrote: > >> Now that portmaster officially supports pkgng I've converted to using >> it. Is there any reason to keep the old pkg_* programs around, or can I >> delete them and add WITHOUT_PKGTOOLS to my /etc/src.conf? I'm running >> RELEASE-9.0 on amd64 and will update to REL-9.1 as soon as it arrives if >> that matters. > > I don't think there's any harm in leaving the pkg_* programs there? I doubt whether there's any harm either, it's just the principle of not having useless binaries lying around. Partly it's an old (and obsolete) habit developed in the days when the largest disks were a handful of megabytes in size, but it's also good security practice not to install anything that's unnecessary. > Of course if you delete them, a binary upgrade with freebsd-update > will most likely put them back. I always upgrade from source, and cut out unused subsystems with the WITHOUT_* knobs in /etc/src.conf, so that's not going to be a problem. > I've switched to pkgng on two machines here. Working well so far, > although pkg2ng had some initial problems with the conversion due to > some conflicting files that had been installed by different packages... Ditto.