From owner-freebsd-arch Wed Jan 15 9: 9:23 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A5637B401 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:09:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E784043F13 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:09:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@freebsd.org) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0FH8v9O017321; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:08:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@freebsd.org) To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADSUP: DEVFS and GEOM mandatorification timeline. From: phk@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:52:10 EST." <15909.37306.656490.486061@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:08:57 +0100 Message-ID: <17320.1042650537@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <15909.37306.656490.486061@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>, Andrew Gallatin writes: > > >Speaking of /dev, driver writers, and API/ABI decisions to be made >before the 5.0-stable brach, I've got a minor axe to grind. Factory >devices. > >Weren't you talking about changing the driver interface in such a way >as to make factory devices easier to implement on FreeBSD? I would >*love* to see this in 5.0-stable so that I don't have to support the >clunky old way I came up with to handle it (conjuring a vnode out of >thin air..) Or am I all wet, and its easy to do now? There are a number of ways to do this, none easy (IMO). I understand what you want, but I don't think we can credibly claim to get this into any working shape for 5-stable. But I will promise you significant "action" in this area in 6-current. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message