From owner-cvs-user Mon Dec 2 20:36:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-cvs-user Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA07006 for cvs-user-outgoing; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 20:36:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06995; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 20:36:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA01406; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 20:36:20 -0800 (PST) To: Paul Traina cc: Bill Fenner , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , CVS-committers@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-all@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-user@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/release/sysinstall config.c install.c In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 02 Dec 1996 19:47:43 PST." <3.0.32.19961202194459.0068dc60@weychopee.shockwave.com> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 1996 20:36:20 -0800 Message-ID: <1402.849587780@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-cvs-user@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > At 11:42 AM 12/2/96 PST, Bill Fenner wrote: > >In message <199612020501.VAA01250@freefall.freebsd.org>you write: > >> Don't run routed by default. > > > >Grumble. FreeBSD should ship with router discovery by default. I thought > we > >figured that letting pppd use RTF_STATIC for its default route was enough to > >resolve the "routed deletes my default route!" complaints. > > Exactly. WTF is going on here? :-( grr. I'm open to suggestions. Joerg stated that more people were being harmed than helped by our default routed configuration, and given that he single-handedly answers about 90% of the questions in comp.os.unix.pc.bsd.post44.freebsd.misc.questions.silly, I figured there was no reason to disbelieve him and disabled it by default. Now we have some people screaming that this is wrong, but nothing concrete enough for me to say "OK, so if I set ``router=routed'' and ``routerflags=-deadbeef'', it will work without hosing the ppp users. Fine, amended." Jordan