From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 18 22:30:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B88716A416 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:30:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from postal2.es.net (postal2.es.net [198.128.3.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8770A43D77 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:30:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by postal2.es.net (Postal Node 2) with ESMTP (SSL) id WHW76952; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:30:52 -0800 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id A1E2045051; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:30:51 -0800 (PST) To: Richard Arends In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 18 Nov 2006 19:33:23 +0100." <20061118183322.GM12210@sun.unixguru.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1163889051_982P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:30:51 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20061118223051.A1E2045051@ptavv.es.net> Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lenovo IBM Thinkpad T60 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:30:55 -0000 --==_Exmh_1163889051_982P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline > Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 19:33:23 +0100 > From: Richard Arends > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > Hello, > > Two months ago i mailed this list with a question about > the T60 and the wireless card that's included. > > After the answers i got here and some further investigation > on my side, i ordered the T60. A few days ago, finaly, it > was deliverd, so now i can show the first results :) > > First of all, i am not using the standard built in Intel wireless > card, but an Atheros that can be ordered via IBM. The shop was > kind enough to build it in for me, so no hassle at that part. > > I installed 6.2 (beta3) and CURRENT, both installed without > a problem from CD. Everything seems to work except sound and > the em interface. In CURRENT sound (snd_hda) works, so i > think somebody needs to MFC that driver. (why was it removed > from stable?) > > X works (perfect) at 1400x1050 with framebuffering. I did not > look (yet) at an ATI drivers, since FB is all i need :) > > Pro: > - Robust look and feel > - Quality! > - Nice keyboard > - Keyboard light (i love it :) ) > - Mousepointer between the keys (my former laptop was a toshiba) > > Con: > - Fan speed. It hasn't dropped below 2500 rpm > - Battery time (now running 30 minutes on battery and i have a > remaining cappacity of 72%. I suspect the fan as a battery drainer. > > Loading acpi_ibm.ko enables a nice set of knobs that can be read > or set with sysctl. So, my first impression, if the cons are fixed, > this is a perfect laptop when running FreeBSD. If you're preferred > OS is written by Microsoft it will probably work without any hassle, > but i did not try that. First, snd_hda had never been in STABLE. It is quite new and was added to CURRENT too late to be adequately tested before the freeze to prepare for 6.2-Release. I suspect it will be MFCed fairly soon as the the freeze on STABLE should be thawing (or might already be doing so). I believe that acpi_ibm should provide some fan control, but the fan is really not much of a power sink. Make sure that you install radeontool from ports. It will let you turn off the display (not just the back-light) and the DAC for the video out. Try setting hw.pci.do_power_nodriver="1" in /boot/loader.conf. That will help (or crash the system). It works on my T43. You can then up the value to "2" or "3". I have yet to try "2", but "3" prevents by T43 from booting. Maybe the T60 will do better. Larger values result in more aggressive PCI power control. Finally, limiting the CPU speed while on battery is a winner. If you use Gnome, use the CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor and kill powerd. You can then manually set the speed. Try to enable EST. Add hint.est.0.disabled="1" to /boot/loader. It is not a win for my system, but it should be. Even though I have these on my T43, Windoows still stretches battery quite a bit. I get about 3.5 hours on FreeBSD and about 5 on Windows. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. 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