From nobody Thu Sep 29 07:11:05 2022 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4MdPfJ3sNRz4V0J1 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2022 07:11:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from mx0.riseup.net (mx0.riseup.net [198.252.153.6]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx0.riseup.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4MdPfJ000Tz46LY for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2022 07:11:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from fews2.riseup.net (fews2-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.84]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.riseup.net", Issuer "R3" (not verified)) by mx0.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4MdPfH033Sz9t86; Thu, 29 Sep 2022 07:11:02 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1664435463; bh=/G7GE9+Lgze9nqxkaenSkk3bx7ZarNmoWbxHZPKPRYw=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=V5OfZUtTXWBddIBoHARk9XsdP2Z4dnvwxEyeO6jbY3KqQ1XuxlglD0cOMuUlTeyTQ zbJe2R3zrkHubxFEkUsgBN07Lk1JgJ/SjPFxJXH0bikMOhi7a8DRjC6nBcK2ZoNTy1 6fxcyWSFR969vitRreOeP+FSvPEuGPtiPL08VnSQ= X-Riseup-User-ID: 46F589F54E4C2011996880956AE194EA2FC3838F9349AEC6A3C2D92A92468419 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews2.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4MdPfG0P1Wz1xx7; Thu, 29 Sep 2022 07:11:01 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1bc98b4fedbce6f750280ee9d1c37920037f1d9f.camel@riseup.net> Subject: Re: concerns about install freebsd From: Ralf Mardorf To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: admin@ventoy.net Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 09:11:05 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <27EE1304-D86D-428D-8ED0-3606DA8A97BB@riseup.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4MdPfJ000Tz46LY X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=V5OfZUtT; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf-mardorf@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.6 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf-mardorf@riseup.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.10 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:mx0.riseup.net]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.6:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N CC'ed to longpanda, the developer of Ventoy, since I encountered a minor issue. On Thu, 2022-09-29 at 06:26 +0200, Tomek CEDRO wrote: > Ventoy uses EXFAT partition to store ISO so you can also use that > partition to store other files just like an ordinary pendrive. Hi, yesno, my Ventoy is aimed to hold Linux ISO only, hence I formatted the partition holding the ISO and persistent file as ext4, this might speed up access. Ventoy applied an EFI fat partition and for sharing data I formatted a third partition as fat32. The ext4 partition of my Ventoy USB stick: [root@archlinux ~]# /usr/bin/ls -lh /mnt/v1.ventoy/ total 7.9G drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K Jan 6 2021 ventoy -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1.6G Jul 31 2020 xubuntu-20.04.1-desktop-amd64.i= so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6.3G Jan 7 2021 xubuntu-20.04.1-desktop-pers1.d= at [root@archlinux ~]# cat /mnt/v1.ventoy/ventoy/ventoy.json=20 { "persistence": [ { "image": "/xubuntu-20.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso", "backend": "/xubuntu-20.04.1-desktop-pers1.dat" } ] } To use live ISOs, it's only required to copy the ISOs to the USB stick, anything else is working automagically. While I'm in favour of the syslinux bootloader for my desktop PC, Ventoy does use GRUB 2 for good reasons. If a Linux ISO should be used as a persistent live Linux, then the live Linux must support this feature and there's the need to generate a *.dat file and to write a ventoy.json. Disclaimer: I don't know if a Ventoy USB stick is that portable among different computes as "regular" USB sticks with a single live Linux or live CDs/DVDs are, but it's under heavy development and it's easy to update the Ventoy device: [root@archlinux ~]# ventoy -u /dev/sdg egrep: warning: egrep is obsolescent; using grep -E egrep: warning: egrep is obsolescent; using grep -E =20 ********************************************** Ventoy: 1.0.80 x86_64 longpanda admin@ventoy.net https://www.ventoy.net ********************************************** =20 grep: warning: stray \ before - Upgrade operation is safe, all the data in the 1st partition (iso files and other) will be unchanged! =20 Update Ventoy 1.0.79 =3D=3D=3D> 1.0.80 Continue? (y/n) y esp partition processing ... =20 Update Ventoy on /dev/sdg successfully finished. =20 The grep warnings are due to a migration to a new release of grep. Annoyances like this don't happen that often, when using a rolling Linux release, but they do happen. I'm running the full path /usr/bin/ls, since I'm using an ls alias that requires special fonts to be displayed correctly. Regards, Ralf