From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Jul 12 14:42:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA21011 for chat-outgoing; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 14:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [194.77.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21004 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 14:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with UUCP id XAA27990; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 23:30:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id XAA15889; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 23:22:16 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19970712232216.40964@gtn.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 23:22:16 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: Amancio Hasty Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-sf@arachna.com Subject: Re: SFBAUG Notes References: <199707121908.MAA12381@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: <199707121908.MAA12381@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Sat, Jul 12, 1997 at 12:08:14PM -0700 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, Jul 12, 1997 at 12:08:14PM -0700, Amancio Hasty wrote: > The SF FreeBSD user's meeting was held last Thursday at the cool offices > of Silicon Reef located in 3017 17th Street , San Francisco. First of all, thanks Amancio for your report. It's nice to hear what's going on ... > A fellow from Netscape stated that one of the reasons that they > didn't want to consider doing a port of FastTrack to FreeBSD is > because the API and pthreads API was not stable. In the case > of pthreads that it was buggy. This is not the only reason > why netscape doesn't want to port to freebsd however I at least > tried to respond to the technical side of the questions. Well ... perhaps they made bad experiences in the past and think problems still exist ... Maybe you/we should tell them, that currently the Linux version of Navigator 4.x is running more stable than the BSDI port... And maybe they should give -current's pthreads a new try. > A concern was raised that in Japan and in Germany people are > writing articles about FreeBSD and in the case of Japan someone > was thinking about starting a TV show about FreeBSD (not sure if > this is true or not it just simply to wild for me to conceive). > > If memory does not fail me the last article published in the US about > FreeBSD was in 1995. Yes write articles ! You can't imagine how many people get in contact with you after reading some Bits and Bytes about FreeBSD in PC and Unix Magazines. Many of us are hackers and are used to know the strength of FreeBSD (and *BSD) over some other commercial and non commercial Operating Systems. But there are much more people, who don't have that knowledge and Unix background. Most people even can't differentiate between SysV and BSD and don't know anything about the history of Unix ... I got so many positive responses after writing with Lars the *BSD article in the German PC magazine "C't" ... So .. don't be lazy ... people are waiting for informative articles ! And people need an alternative for so many things like ... hmmm ... for Messy Windows an such ;-)) > jkh also handed out his first copy of FreeeBSD News which has a nice > article by David Filo, Co-founder of Yahoo!, as to why they chose > FreeBSD for their web servers. I want a copy as well ;-)) Andreas /// -- Andreas Klemm | klemm.gtn.com - powered by Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/benches.html