From nobody Thu Sep 29 08:03:58 2022 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4MdQqL1t6Pz4V53t for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2022 08:03:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx1.riseup.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4MdQqK2mcSz3Cdt for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2022 08:03:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from fews1.riseup.net (fews1-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.riseup.net", Issuer "R3" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4MdQqH4cmNzDqQv for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2022 08:03:55 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1664438635; bh=HVEafTKof0UuGwfQN1bFPTnWH36pcCjXagUUoyquuww=; h=Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=bbZioibPTfNnH/9OmN99b2g1zeiaegU9iBzMnnOzVDQd0m71GopCeoaeRiSNU9Y7x /bbj6yORjvfKazPLxx68tjCYWlv2VXacfjk0jISKn9bZMHyGExp7Jo72Ng4vRw19n1 T1tKADQ69URCg4Z9D1X/wXTahZ8qnpLKxWeOObj8= X-Riseup-User-ID: E49D59B6CF08CD5B821A3605827F1F27643C29D19F42C175FA6B5C45ACA900B0 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4MdQqH09Y1z5wGg for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2022 08:03:54 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <3935d030e8df3d301f62f51ae041d8660f018c9b.camel@riseup.net> Subject: Re: concerns about install freebsd From: Ralf Mardorf To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 10:03:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4MdQqK2mcSz3Cdt X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=bbZioibP; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf-mardorf@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.129 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf-mardorf@riseup.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.20 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Thu, 2022-09-29 at 11:34 +0530, jian he wrote: > I successfully installed oracle virtualbox. Hi, if I understand correctly your host is Linux running either Virtualbox from a distro's repositories or from Oracle. When using a Linux host I strongly encourage you to chose the Virtual Machine Manager GUI to run a QEMU/KVM, instead of using Virtualbox. I'm using Virtualbox from Oracle, not from the distro's repositories, to hold Windows guests, since Virtualbox provides comfortable file sharing between the Linux host and the Windows guest. For other purposes I'm in favour of the Virtual Machine Manager GUI to run a QEMU/KVM. Virtualbox is terribly slow and suffers from countless issues, let alone that it occasionally breaks completely. QEMU/KVM is a way better choice, as long as direct file sharing (or clipboard sharing) is not important. A QEMU/KVM guest performs more or less as fast as an install on bare metal ("bare metal" is for a regular install, such as your Linux host). The Virtual Machine Manager GUI is as easy to use as the Virtualbox GUI, with the exception of the mentioned sharing. As a side note, get used to portable scripts. I rarely use file mangers etc., I'm in favour of command line. For this purpose I like to use bashisms, but for scripts I'm in favour to avoid bashisms. Are you already familiar with command line and scrips? If not consider to get used to the default login shells of your host and guest. You can change them at any time, but as long as you are testing Linux and FreeBSD, I would stay with the defaults. Regards, Ralf