From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 22 16:46:58 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2419437B401 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:46:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from skywalker.rogness.net (skywalker.rogness.net [64.251.173.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B0A43ED8 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:46:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Received: from skywalker.rogness.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skywalker.rogness.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0N0l5FH052321; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:47:05 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by skywalker.rogness.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id h0N0l4Ba052318; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:47:05 -0700 (MST) X-Authentication-Warning: skywalker.rogness.net: nick owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:47:03 -0700 (MST) From: Nick Rogness To: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Getting started as an ISP In-Reply-To: <200301221928.h0MJSJ7l041222@nic-naa.net> Message-ID: <20030122172412.L52063-100000@skywalker.rogness.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine wrote: > Oki all, > > A few weeks ago I sent a note asking for help getting started running > out of my basement. Two people were kind enough to reply, and I've > cleverly (not!) lost their mail. > > My situation has changed slightly. Originally I'd a set of iXsystems > 1300 boxen running -STABLE and -CURRENT, and nothing else, all in my > basement. Now I've more resources -- the assets of a failed ISP. > > I'd like to know what other small- to medium-sized ISPs consider the > core set of service to provide dial-up service. The functional set of > boxes, from dns to radius to ... RADIUS is the only thing you need to offer dialup service. However, that wouldn't make things very interesting now would it. So these are just a few core services that I believe are required to be considered a "normal" dialup service provider: -DNS (DNS service, domain hosting, etc) -Web/FTP (Web storage space) -EMAIL (POP/IMAP/SMTP) -NEWS Web/FTP and Email service are relatively simple to provide to customers. I recommend outsourcing News to some provider as it is cumbersome and expensive to build/run/operate. If your initial customer base is small then you can run all of these things off of just a couple of machines (1 if you really wanted too). It doesn't make much sense to put up several machines unless you plan to grow quickly. In fact, you could build an ISP with 2 or 3 pieces of equipment: a Router, RAS box, and 1 UNIX machine. If you don't grow to quickly, you could run on this setup for quite some time with the proper connections. This isn't recommended for redundancy reasons, but you COULD. > > I'll be happy to summarize, and provide archives, if no one has already > done this. As some of the assets I now have are Sun boxen (new circa > 1999), if the phrase "solaris 2.{6,7,8,9}" brings any > failures-or-features to mind I'd appreciate that also. Use intel based machines as they are less expensive to run and maintain. Although, if you only have Sun's sitting around you could use them. All third party applications (like Apache/Bind) are available for Sun/Solaris systems. > > I'll be co-loing my original set of -STABLE boxen as an ISP and ICANN > accredited registrar (yup, got my chit) in the same facilities, so all > of my prior implicit "how do I" questions remain. > I have yet to see your questions. Could you send them to me please? Nick Rogness - How many people here have telekenetic powers? Raise my hand. -Emo Philips To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message