From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jan 28 13: 2:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A3037B41B; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:02:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from caddis.yogotech.com (caddis.yogotech.com [206.127.123.130]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06389; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 14:02:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by caddis.yogotech.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0SL2KI70409; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 14:02:20 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15445.48220.670641.705228@caddis.yogotech.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 14:02:20 -0700 To: Chad David Cc: Nate Williams , "M. Warner Losh" , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Transmissions :) Was: Firewall config non-intuitiveness In-Reply-To: <20020128135603.G66369@colnta.acns.ab.ca> References: <1617.216.153.202.59.1012240332.squirrel@www1.27in.tv> <20020128192930.GA86720@student.uu.se> <15445.44102.288461.155113@caddis.yogotech.com> <20020128.131414.49257581.imp@village.org> <15445.45720.514136.887062@caddis.yogotech.com> <20020128135603.G66369@colnta.acns.ab.ca> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ This is getting way off topic, so I've moved this to -chat ] > > > : If I enable the clutch in my car, my car moves (assuming it's in gear). > > > : If I disable it, the power is no longer going to the drive wheels. > > > > > > That's not quite right, but it is a good analogy. If you disable your > > > clutch, then you are going to have to shift without it and deal with > > > putting it into gear at stops. > > > > Unfortunately, you can't do it w/out a clutch. (At least, not without > > tearing your clutch/transmission to bits). > > No true :). While at a stop a clutch is a good idea, you can avoid > ware on a number of parts if you learn to shift without clutch while > moving. Actually, the wear you save on the clutch (which is designed for this) will be translated to the gears in the transmission. Very few (!!) people are capable of shifting w/out a clutch and *NOT* doing damage to the gears. Hence the reason for a clutch. > On smaller four and five speed transmissions (or bikes)this is > actually quite easy... on 3 ton grain trucks and tractors its a little > more tricky. Actually, on grain trucks it's *easier*. (Speaking with 15 years of experience driving them. :) :) :) On the smaller cars, the synchro-mesh setup on the gears makes it *much* harder to do it cleanly, while on big grain trucks and bikes, it's easier since they don't add such things since they are mostly un-necessary. (And, not using a clutch is more common.) Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message