From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 2 13:54:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7AA465 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 13:54:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-pa0-f45.google.com (mail-pa0-f45.google.com [209.85.220.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C423F3 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 13:54:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id kl13so311146pab.4 for ; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 06:54:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to:x-mailer:x-gm-message-state; bh=nLwA19wamwMbCphoxWjLl76hrd6D1DfM6a53dOqqhSw=; b=Skne5P0BmuqteR8KaEq/DMwPRKGEPw9tktSmjJyQOnpMxW4muk4RFuv8YEe4QUdyGZ kKB0vsBtdJxpQxXYYxgekdN4yITOx7V+SYW1ZV6kr6oz1ejKO2R86iFBHh53pbwwim6Y A2wYniu2dlRlbBB00kApiLSRHJAHWMztw1sWv+TRHWzideJ2MKZd8/DFCe5BbdRHTNhn 50ZHk4AZlgdvXl1rh4lC1ASn52rsMaedwuGtFzouMHJknAmID5w7kL8bu1zbJ5VH5I64 lVaoiZJ32CGnCrlrgr5b+x4WJbjj35AVCkpkmLlJdV/LvVCgUNxfm96sbAyy08G7mxtv IFoQ== X-Received: by 10.66.150.165 with SMTP id uj5mr25124473pab.37.1364910849935; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 06:54:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.53] (50-78-194-198-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. [50.78.194.198]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id kl4sm1826476pbc.31.2013.04.02.06.54.07 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 02 Apr 2013 06:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Warner Losh Subject: Re: considering i386 as a tier 1 architecture Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 07:54:03 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4FCBC174-DF7D-4935-A09B-F9BA34185462@bsdimp.com> References: <944760435.20130401210118@serebryakov.spb.ru> <8638v9e22j.fsf@ds4.des.no> To: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlYt6Dqd984ufH60dnJCazXYJ14e4jCkWxAPKymoJEApewael+arMcD5wsiZXyHJRP4n161 Cc: Lev Serebryakov , FreeBSD Hackers , Eitan Adler , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= , Wojciech Puchar X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 13:54:10 -0000 On Apr 2, 2013, at 4:10 AM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav = wrote: >=20 >> Wojciech Puchar writes: >>> Lev Serebryakov writes: >>>> It is not exact so. Some Atoms on some motherboards with some >>>> firmwares are 64-bit CPU. >>> don't know of any now in shops that are not >>=20 >> http://soekris.com/products/net5501.html >> http://soekris.com/products/net6501.html >>=20 >> DES >> -- >> Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no >>=20 >=20 >=20 > I am NOT able to understand the merit of these products with respect = to > their features and PRICES . >=20 > It is possible to assemble much more cheaper full featured PC like = systems > ( DDR3 memory , 64-bit capable processors , with a disadvantage about = power > requirements ) . Often times the power consumption is the most important bit, so much so = you sacrifice speed and memory to get the power down to fit into a small = power budget. Just because you have the ability to purchase a faster = machine for less doesn't make that faster machine suitable for the job. Warner >=20 > Thank you very much . >=20 > Mehmet Erol Sanliturk > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"