From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 23:34:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E68B5E9 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 23:34:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x232.google.com (mail-lb0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 246972B04 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 23:34:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f178.google.com with SMTP id c11so3869412lbj.37 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 16:34:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=jkBqIXkzk+ZEpV/STP187OipEsjD2sbvjCWKDf2LlyM=; b=mEU6r2gtRrkFHaBqMkKIFc8pDhJkYuK8dOPs3FLsc//MucBc7QF4GUofgjdrsnGolr P4LUauSWNQCOU9LTPvV7bG2jETF24rYlRJssA5NZ2R/GBH0cfKnJ/TSd+Sp7I34rBgH5 2LpFFKGJfTsAEVUptcE6L41ez53tl2WtL8/2SZeXTk+N9sIvF+yi2KGxa3S2zLVY6wAU P1gWoCfemsjunq2mvvUsmxnDk9AbD/wl27bXhsA6+Xj8D8tedb6K3k3U8blD34OMWnW/ reFshVyjV+hq5uEdtptYe2Der7nzSeJnTuAKU3p0qs3mtSuIFNE/pjwQVOY8671Wb3+x JH8g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.153.7.101 with SMTP id db5mr16442773lad.46.1406331260933; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 16:34:20 -0700 (PDT) Sender: crodr001@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.225.34 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 16:34:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201407252126.s6PLQ5G2086889@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <201407252126.s6PLQ5G2086889@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 16:34:20 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: SiZnutR6zpShzJYY54ecx2T0QF0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: HOWTO articles for migrating from Linux to FreeBSD, especially for pkg? From: Craig Rodrigues To: Garrett Wollman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 Cc: Warren Block , FreeBSD Current X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 23:34:23 -0000 On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Garrett Wollman < wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> wrote: > In article you write: > > >Writing "an article" is hard. Writing a small section on how deleting > >packages is different between pkg and, say, apt, is much easier. The > >scope is known. > > Indeed, it's pretty trivial. > > I think the sort of article Craig was looking for was more on the > order of > > apt command pkg command > apt-get update pkg update (*1) > ... ... > > (*1) Explanation of differences between how apt behaves and how pkg > behaves. > > The set of common apt operations is pretty well-known, and most of > them have direct pkg(8) equivalents. > Hi, Garrett is describing exactly what I am looking for. I'm not looking for a complicated article explaining the internal differences between apt and pkg. Very few people have the interest or patience to read that. Providing a simple table contrasting the basic apt/yum/rpm/pkg commands for installing/upgrading/deleting packages is mostly what is needed. We need to show people that installing packages on FreeBSD is not like the "bad old pkg_add days" which people have bad memories of. We need to show that pkg is as good as what people are used to on modern Linux distributions. I have less experience with OS X, but if we can show people that pkg is as good as (or better than) MacPorts or Homebrew for installing third-party packages, that would be great as well, but focusing on Linux first would be good. -- Craig