From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 18 21:35:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44248D0 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:35:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amdmiek@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x22a.google.com (mail-wi0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F838D36 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:35:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f170.google.com with SMTP id hm11so3537448wib.1 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:35:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rBcW0vPmkUJDHDyL6Bls5D6i4umPOFHDUgBnxAzqqIU=; b=i6RGKZ2yKEeuSZR0zoyrnnkl/UTi3KFEfdx2t+pwKwz3adzYHAE7Mwb8t8R+7U8tc8 a3nlkgqz1uyfuY91Fq6BIr2XCDk10ioExXB2OuuSA1U52ZIaEAgTetTB9yrV79aLIrr9 wiR3wYcp7WL3nRFaprSBRnDOcqs/V9EdFNM64L+4N7H7TQn2z4ydnqK5ZD+39a9bB9nC JWl0toixbla0L4bw503AWNImohmsckokQHvUHKYx1zEgHAg5arON1OpMsNiWARMSkZzg Zq+ctLKfGlMc+S24jDitq1WxASFX+eZazY+ju98dmRrdPMGozqw+qpky5ZizhOJ9Xcix oDZQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.120.169 with SMTP id ld9mr28137181wjb.24.1363642548599; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:35:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.93.40 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:35:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <6A3147D1-128F-43C5-BF5D-5A593217C87C@mac.com> <20130318181658.GA42202@icarus.home.lan> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 01:35:48 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A few problems From: Michael BlackHeart To: Chuck Swiger , freebsd-stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Jeremy Chadwick X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:35:49 -0000 2013/3/18 Chuck Swiger : > Hi-- > > On Mar 18, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >>> You've got an Intel P45 northbridge controller which supports dual-chan= nel mode, but that only works for DIMMs of the same size. You might be abl= e to get 6GB if you place the DIMMs in slots 1 and 2 instead of 1 & 3 or 2 = & 4. Otherwise, try getting another 4GB DIMM and using 4GB + 4GB instead. >> >> Off-list: >> >> Except that Michael said, re: his dmidecode output: >> >>> As you see it says that in DIMM4 there's 4Gb module, but it's 2Gb >>> actualy. It's a Kit of 2x2Gb. BIOS says that there's only 4Gb but >>> FreeBSD see 6Gb. I'll try later to switch modules into DIMM1 & DIMM3 >>> but I'm not expecting any difference. >> >> So let's recap: >> >> - DIMMs are operating in single-channel mode (vs. dual-channel) > > Are they? (I didn't see info one way or the other, but perhaps off-list = communication confirmed that.) > >> - DIMM2 claims to be 2GB >> - DIMM4 claims to be 4GB >> - Intel P45 supports up to 16GB RAM (4GB maximum per DIMM) >> - OS is amd64 >> >> If he did have 4GB+2GB installed, since he's using amd64, ideally he >> would be seeing FreeBSD report "avail memory =3D (around 6GB)", which >> isn't the case. So something isn't making sense here. > > Right. If one DIMM really is 4GB, then putting them into slots 1 & 2 sho= uld make a difference; or just install only one at a time to double-check. > >> Possibly the SMBIOS/DMI data claims to have a 4GB DIMM, yet in actuality >> chip-wise only has 2GB on it. In which case, the SMBIOS/DMI data is >> wrong, or the DIMM manufacturer is shady. >> >> I would not be surprised if the user had two DIMMs bought at different >> times (even if they're the same model), or that one is just manufactured >> wrong/badly. > > Maybe. If you put different sized DIMMs into slots paired up for dual-ch= annel mode, IIRC that era of Intel chipsets would work in dual-channel mode= using the smaller memory size. That resembles the current situation rathe= r closely-- ie, 6GB installed but only 4GB available. > > But I suppose it could be a DIMM which claims to be the wrong size in DMI= info.... > > Regards, > -- > -Chuck > I checked out. It's a kit of 2x2Gb as I said before. And I moved them to 1 and 3 slots and nothing changed. currently do not have any DDR2 modules to make some more tests. Here's proof: http://www.miekoff.ru/wp-content/uploads/P1020858.jpg And for the record, I used this memory on two other motherboards, one was running WinXP and another FreeBSD 8.3 and later 9.1. And all of them reported about 4Gb installed. Just like BIOS does. So it seems to me like some weird thing. On the one side it could be a FreeBSD's DMI mis-interpretating. On the other side as far as I know Corssair do not produce something, but just tunes and overclocks memory chips. And because of the radiators I can't visually compare chips one of them easily could be a 4Gb module locked to 2Gb or something like that.