Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2021 21:59:11 +0300 From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> To: Stefan Blachmann <sblachmann@gmail.com> Cc: Jason Bacon <bacon4000@gmail.com>, FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Call for Foundation-supported Project Ideas Message-ID: <CAOgwaMuCgqHTB03B%2BbXFzt-MicvG2mE6MsNJwKbUnacyfEZnBg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CACc-My0k-ZM-WxxDjKyCF7Z%2B2ZUgpYK27TRKH=SEvZ_OoS3kfg@mail.gmail.com> References: <861r36xzpe.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> <CAOtMX2gh98wbQ48S51QwpYfrnexpVb4vL%2BFVuxgLnT1otYjuAQ@mail.gmail.com> <bc3ba6502d5c5776f44304ff7878a5eb@bsdforge.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.2111240056470.68830@ai.fobar.qr> <d45757d9-b5ca-e1c7-5a1c-18159227de17@gmail.com> <CACc-My1jjd=7rSpEA8rg6y_Qq=ebL-WsTZdhv40Zs=F=XfZqyg@mail.gmail.com> <CACc-My0Fu8yORoi8DW9dCL8EgmmRodH9YdMwNeFDybmDWpCRXQ@mail.gmail.com> <371b758c-1efa-b5df-6437-ce4f06369383@gmail.com> <23c3e735-22b5-7528-e311-d75657c33a69@gmail.com> <CACc-My0k-ZM-WxxDjKyCF7Z%2B2ZUgpYK27TRKH=SEvZ_OoS3kfg@mail.gmail.com>
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--00000000000042168a05d2062927 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 8:56 PM Stefan Blachmann <sblachmann@gmail.com> wrote: > On 11/30/21, Stefan Esser <se@freebsd.org> wrote: > > ULE does not care for the "niceness" of a process and lets nice -19 > > processes run with hardly any reduction of the share of CPU cycles > > granted compared to competing nice 0 processes, for example. > > I can confirm this... always believed it's just me. > I'd like very much if renicing would have more, actually usable, effect. > > > On 11/30/21, Jason Bacon <bacon4000@gmail.com> wrote: > > If your nVidia cards are basically landfill, like some of mine, and you > > don't care about 3D support, xf86-video-nv still works in some case that > > would otherwise call for v304. I wonder if it would be a simple matter > > to add support to it for some additional older hardware supported by > > v340. Yes, I know nv is deprecated, but this may be the only solution > > for ancient hardware. > > Actually xf86-video-nv overlaps into the range of what is supported by > nvidia-driver-304. > Practically all nvidia proprietary drivers overlap in their range of > supported cards with the "adjacent" versions. > So it is common, for example, to see the newer ones of the cards that > are supported by 390 are still supported by, for example, 470, while > the older ones still supported by 390 are supported by 340, too, but > not by 4xx. > > The bad thing now is that with nvidia having already dropped 304 and > 340 support, the next xorg ABI change will render the "middle field" > (eg not yet historic, but not yet very new either) of nvidia cards > useless on FreeBSD if there is no nouveau port. > > > On 11/30/21, Floyd, Paul <paulf2718@gmail.com> wrote: > > However I'm not sure that porting nouveau will help. My experience on > > Fedora is that nouveau simply never works. > > Never used Fedora. Maybe it's because Fedora is very close to > commercial RHEL which might be not really targeted at desktop? > Personally, I never have tried Fedora, but used several other distros. > Nouveau always worked fine for me. So no idea what's the cause the > difficulties you are experiencing on Fedora. > > On practically every Linux distro Nouveau is the quasi standard driver > for any type of Nvidia cards, as the proprietary Nvidia drivers are > non-free category. > So I think one can consider Nouveau as very well-tested and reliable > and that porting it to FreeBSD would be worthwhile, profiting many > users who would else either have to buy a new graphics card or migrate > to Linux. > > I am using Fedora KDE after FreeBSD 9. ( I think 2 ) because it is not working on my computers ( mainboards are Intel ( using *915 ) produced for Windows ) . Up to now , the most effective disadvantage was the "scheduling" structure : If a program or programs starts to perform continuous disk read-write operations , the computer is becoming unusable because interactive operation requests are responded with an annoying delay . Now , my hard disks in a computer have become unusable due to a country-wise electricity fluctuation ( in Turkey ) . The Fedora KDE was version 28 . To obtain a workable computer as soon as possible , I have installed Fedora KDE 25 to use parameters of the OS from a computer using USB HDD with Fedora KDE 25 . This install converted my large number of compiled programs from open source repositories to be unusable because of library versions mismatch . Since all of the repositories are lost , I decided to install Fedora KDE 35 ( last ) . The previous versions were working very well , but version 35 had lost such a "working very well" capability . I have installed Fedora KDE 32 , with "no help" . This means that the older hardware support has been dropped while they are "working very well" . This is the "gift" from our "blessers" . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk I have decided to install --00000000000042168a05d2062927--
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