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Date:      Thu, 29 Sep 2022 14:45:07 +0530
From:      jian he <jian.universality@gmail.com>
To:        Ralf Mardorf <ralf-mardorf@riseup.net>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: concerns about install freebsd
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Finally, this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdBi6Jcw35s  which seems
promising, will try it on the weekend.

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 1:34 PM Ralf Mardorf <ralf-mardorf@riseup.net>
wrote:

> On Thu, 2022-09-29 at 11:34 +0530, jian he wrote:
> > I successfully installed oracle virtualbox.
>
> Hi,
>
> if I understand correctly your host is Linux running either Virtualbox
> from a distro's repositories or from Oracle.
>
> When using a Linux host I strongly encourage you to chose the Virtual
> Machine Manager GUI to run a QEMU/KVM, instead of using Virtualbox.
>
> I'm using Virtualbox from Oracle, not from the distro's repositories, to
> hold Windows guests, since Virtualbox provides comfortable file sharing
> between the Linux host and the Windows guest. For other purposes I'm in
> favour of the Virtual Machine Manager GUI to run a QEMU/KVM.
>
> Virtualbox is terribly slow and suffers from countless issues, let alone
> that it occasionally breaks completely. QEMU/KVM is a way better choice,
> as long as direct file sharing (or clipboard sharing) is not important.
> A QEMU/KVM guest performs more or less as fast as an install on bare
> metal ("bare metal" is for a regular install, such as your Linux host).
>
> The Virtual Machine Manager GUI is as easy to use as the Virtualbox GUI,
> with the exception of the mentioned sharing.
>
> As a side note, get used to portable scripts. I rarely use file mangers
> etc., I'm in favour of command line. For this purpose I like to use
> bashisms, but for scripts I'm in favour to avoid bashisms.
>
> Are you already familiar with command line and scrips? If not consider
> to get used to the default login shells of your host and guest. You can
> change them at any time, but as long as you are testing Linux and
> FreeBSD, I would stay with the defaults.
>
> Regards,
> Ralf
>
>

-- 
 I recommend David Deutsch's <<The Beginning of Infinity>>

  Jian

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,=
sans-serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:ver=
dana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-famil=
y:verdana,sans-serif">Finally, this <a href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watc=
h?v=3DKdBi6Jcw35s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKdBi6Jcw35s</a>=C2=A0 =
which seems promising, will try it on the weekend.<br></div></div><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 29,=
 2022 at 1:34 PM Ralf Mardorf &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ralf-mardorf@riseup.net=
">ralf-mardorf@riseup.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,20=
4,204);padding-left:1ex">On Thu, 2022-09-29 at 11:34 +0530, jian he wrote:<=
br>
&gt; I successfully installed oracle virtualbox.<br>
<br>
Hi,<br>
<br>
if I understand correctly your host is Linux running either Virtualbox<br>
from a distro&#39;s repositories or from Oracle.<br>
<br>
When using a Linux host I strongly encourage you to chose the Virtual<br>
Machine Manager GUI to run a QEMU/KVM, instead of using Virtualbox.<br>
<br>
I&#39;m using Virtualbox from Oracle, not from the distro&#39;s repositorie=
s, to<br>
hold Windows guests, since Virtualbox provides comfortable file sharing<br>
between the Linux host and the Windows guest. For other purposes I&#39;m in=
<br>
favour of the Virtual Machine Manager GUI to run a QEMU/KVM.<br>
<br>
Virtualbox is terribly slow and suffers from countless issues, let alone<br=
>
that it occasionally breaks completely. QEMU/KVM is a way better choice,<br=
>
as long as direct file sharing (or clipboard sharing) is not important.<br>
A QEMU/KVM guest performs more or less as fast as an install on bare<br>
metal (&quot;bare metal&quot; is for a regular install, such as your Linux =
host).<br>
<br>
The Virtual Machine Manager GUI is as easy to use as the Virtualbox GUI,<br=
>
with the exception of the mentioned sharing.<br>
<br>
As a side note, get used to portable scripts. I rarely use file mangers<br>
etc., I&#39;m in favour of command line. For this purpose I like to use<br>
bashisms, but for scripts I&#39;m in favour to avoid bashisms.<br>
<br>
Are you already familiar with command line and scrips? If not consider<br>
to get used to the default login shells of your host and guest. You can<br>
change them at any time, but as long as you are testing Linux and<br>
FreeBSD, I would stay with the defaults.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Ralf<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color=
:rgb(153,153,153)">=C2=A0I recommend David <span>Deutsch</span>&#39;s &lt;&=
lt;The Beginning of Infinity&gt;&gt;</span><br></font></div><div><font size=
=3D"2"><br></font></div><div><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"color:rgb(153,=
153,153)">=C2=A0 Jian</span><br></font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>=
</div></div>

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