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Date:      Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:59:27 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
Cc:        Alexey Zelkin <phantom@cris.net>, committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/contrib/groff/nroff nroff.sh
Message-ID:  <19990924085927.I42271@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <199909232055.NAA00345@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
References:  <19990923200051.A20174@scorpion.crimea.ua> <199909232055.NAA00345@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>

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On Thursday, 23 September 1999 at 13:55:19 -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
>> hi,
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 09:10:06AM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
>>>> phantom     1999/09/23 06:40:29 PDT
>>>>
>>>>   Modified files:
>>>>     contrib/groff/nroff  nroff.sh
>>>>   Log:
>>>>   Learn nroff about -p and -t options. It allows to preprocess
>>>>   file with pic(1) and tbl(1).
>>
>>> Though I agree with the idea, I'm not sure how practical it is
>>> to expect nroff to be able to actually display pic(1) output :-)

nroff displays (or tries to display :-) pic output now.  What I see
here is just a short cut so that you can write 'nroff -p foo' instead
of 'pic foo | nroff'.

>> Hmmm... Reason for addition these option is my practic way -- I have few
>> files which require preprocessing with pic or tbl.  It's better for me
>> to enter "nroff -p -ms xx.ms | less" than
>> "groff -S -mtty-char -Tascii -p -ms xx.ms | less"
>
> So it was done simply as a short cut for you???  If so then I have
> doubts about it beeing a commit canidate.  If it does not emit the
> proper white space areas for the pic and tbl it's a bug.  I don't
> like new bugs.

I don't see that there would be any difference, though I haven't
tested it.

>>> Oh, and I hope this was sent back to the gnu maintaners, or it will be
>>> yet another FreeBSD incompatibility :-(.
>>
>> Don't worry about groff package. Groff lost mainainer at middle of
>> 1996 and still waits.
>
> You mean to tell me that the GNU project has no one tracking submissions
> of changes to groff?  That seems really odd...

That surprises me too, especially since I'm sure I've seen updates
after then.

  $ ftp ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/gnu/groff/
  Connected to prep.ai.mit.edu.
  -rw-r--r--   1 ftp      ftp        140890 Mar  3  1993 groff-1.06-1.07.diff.gz
  -rw-r--r--   1 ftp      ftp         21048 Apr 19  1993 groff-1.07-1.08.diff.gz
  -rw-r--r--   1 ftp      ftp         60885 Feb 19  1994 groff-1.08-1.09.diff.gz
  -rw-r--r--   1 ftp      ftp         27050 Aug 25  1997 groff-1.10-1.11.diff.gz
  -rw-r--r--   1 ftp      ftp        986431 Nov 26  1995 groff-1.10.tar.gz
  -rw-r--r--   1 ftp      ftp       1015028 Sep  8 15:02 groff-1.11.1.tar.gz
  -rw-r--r--   1 ftp      ftp        996936 Aug 25  1997 groff-1.11a.tar.gz

Somebody's obviously doing something.

Greg
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