From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Sep 15 13:29:01 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21538BDB611; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:29:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6BC73BC; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:29:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1bkWil-000AbF-Qg; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 16:28:55 +0300 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 16:28:55 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: Garrett Wollman Cc: Benjamin Kaduk , freebsd-security@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Heimdal in base Message-ID: <20160915132855.GA2960@zxy.spb.ru> References: <56436F4B.8050002@FreeBSD.org> <86r3jwfpiq.fsf@desk.des.no> <20151111181339.GE48728@zxy.spb.ru> <86io58flhk.fsf@desk.des.no> <20151111184448.GR31314@zxy.spb.ru> <86egfu9z0j.fsf@desk.des.no> <22490.595.67496.130780@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <22490.595.67496.130780@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:29:01 -0000 On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 10:07:15PM -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > > > Well, it's definitely too late for 11, now. > > > But, Debian is preparing to remove their heimdal package entirely, > > imminently: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=837728 > > The primary issue, so far as I can see, is that Heimdal and MIT were > only compatible in the parts of the API that were formally > standardized. For those of us who need MIT (to have a working kadmin, > for example), that has pretty much always boiled down to completely > disabling Heimdal in base (and anything that depends on it, like > OpenSSH, pam_krb5, and GSSAPI-authenticated NFS), and installing > replacement bits from ports/packages. > > If we're going to remove Heimdal from base, we should completely > deorbit (or disable, as appropriate) all of the things that depend on > it, and make sure that there are ports that provide replacement > functionality. (AFAIK the only thing missing is gssd, the user-mode > side of the authenticated NFS support.) My bet would be that very few > FreeBSD users actually take advantage of this support, and unless > they're running in an all-FreeBSD or all-Heimdal shop probably have to > install MIT Kerberos anyway. I am use gssd. For $HOME over NFS.