From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 6 07:23:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D4E216A4CE for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2005 07:23:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net (outbound04.telus.net [199.185.220.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882D843D1D for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2005 07:23:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mcepeda@ualberta.ca) Received: from [192.168.0.118] (really [142.59.231.163]) by priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP <20050206072329.MLAI24691.priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net@[192.168.0.118]>; Sun, 6 Feb 2005 00:23:29 -0700 From: Mauro To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org, Garance A Drosihn In-Reply-To: References: <1106542417.29481.168.camel@localhost.localdomain> <41F4ADC1.8070201@freebsd.org> <42017276.1010304@finnovative.net> <4201C54A.8090009@freebsd.org> <1107418085.4125.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050206002904.GJ9350@dragon.nuxi.com> <1107656286.4131.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 00:23:23 -0700 Message-Id: <1107674603.4131.48.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: airport estreme with Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 07:23:31 -0000 On Sun, 2005-06-02 at 00:43 -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > with Broadcom. We're all just speculating at their reasons, > and that is clearly a complete waste of time if people are going > to get all upset about "ethnocentrism". Nobody on this mailing > list is trying to ram anything down anyone else's throat. > > We're not guessing at "what all the people on the planet" want, > we are guessing at the motives of Broadcom. If it happens that > Broadcom does want to keep the FCC happy, so they can sell their > products in the US, that is not the fault of anyone on this list. > I wasn't under the impression this was an american list. I'm not attacking anyone on the list. You seem to think I'm making a moral judgement on a particular person, I'm not. Nor do I find fault with the list for broadcom's poor comportment. My point is that that speculation can't account for Broadcom's reluctance to release specs globally. And I stand behind that. Now any speculation that must happen must take place within a global worldview because we live in a world where business is global and Freebsd is global just as Broadcom is a global business. And I dare to presume that this list is also global as I don't believe it limits its discussion to American topics or how technology solely affects the American human condition. I'm a living example of this this "gobalness", I don't live in the states and I got airport extreme. Thus, I don't care what the FCC says, not do I think its dictates affect me. A pet peeve with me is when I used to get americans telling me that a product should be available because the FDA allows it. Shazam! We're not in the states so the FDA has no jurisdiction, and I could care less about the FDA or the FCC ... is what I would tell them! Last I checked the US depended on foreign trade for most of its economy. Thus, internationalism is the perspective we should be considering. Having said that, I think it good that we can speculate.