From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Feb 7 7: 7:13 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F0837B401 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 07:07:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from blue.dls.net (blue.dls.net [209.242.10.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49C043F93 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 07:07:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from emailrob@emailrob.com) Received: from emailrob.com (123-dls801.dls.net [216.145.235.123]) by blue.dls.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00A8120370 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:07:01 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3E43CC65.A20418DB@emailrob.com> Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 09:10:29 -0600 From: rob spellberg X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The lack of common sense wrt recent issues References: <200302070848.h178mTaX011012@grimreaper.grondar.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mark Murray wrote: > Sort of. I believe that it is the Japanese who say that if > someone loses his temper, he automatically loses the argument. > > If you can't keep control, you shouldn't be playing the game. this is one form. another, which is particularly amusing to observe and which comes to us from the 24-hour floggers of current events, comes from politics and policy. in this arena, it is considered impolitic to lose one's temper. conclusive evidence that one party to a discussion has determined for themselves that they have lost the debate is when they shift to "harrumph - i am so offended; to think that i, a Good Person, would have been deceived into engaging in debate with a neanderthal such as you" mode and make an "ad hominem" attack. in spite of this shift, they retain both politeness and quiet tone. currently, two of the most popular and, therefore, least effective of these attacks are variants of: a] "you're a racist" and b] "you just want to help your rich friends". polite harrumphness: whatever the topic, you can bet the mortgage. rob spellberg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message