From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 14 20:33:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8722B16A4BF; Sun, 14 Sep 2003 20:33:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phoenix.gargantuan.com (rrcs-se-24-73-171-238.biz.rr.com [24.73.171.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422EA43F75; Sun, 14 Sep 2003 20:33:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@gargantuan.com) Received: from cyclops.gargantuan.com (cyclops.gargantuan.com [3ffe:c00:8034:a00::18]) by phoenix.gargantuan.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DAB91EF; Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:33:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael W. Oliver" To: "Nigel Weeks" , "'Tom Rhodes'" Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:33:35 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <004101c37b26$de886400$020aa8c0@aims.private> In-Reply-To: <004101c37b26$de886400$020aa8c0@aims.private> X-Personal-Email: michael@gargantuan.com X-WWW-Site: http://michael.gargantuan.com X-GPG-Public-Key: $WWW-Site/gnupg/pubkey.asc X-Home-Phone: +1-863-816-8091 X-Mobile-Phone: +1-863-738-2334 X-Home-Address: 8008 Apache Lane, Lakeland, FL, US 33810-2172 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Boundary-02=_cMTZ/ZD5g5iTtms"; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200309142333.48902.michael@gargantuan.com> cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Revamped Look 'n' feel: Feedback appreciated! X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: michael@gargantuan.com List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 03:33:52 -0000 --Boundary-02=_cMTZ/ZD5g5iTtms Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: signed data Content-Disposition: inline +--- On Sunday, September 14, 2003 21:15 --- | Nigel Weeks proclaimed: | | I'm very tired of convincing people that FreeBSD is a professional, | enterprise-grade OS, when they go to the freebsd.org site, and say it | looks like a college project. Call me naive, but isn't this 'judging a book (or an OS) by it's cover'? | If only a site existed that (I hate to say it, it seems so shallow), | looked more like redhat.com, and less like a quick hack-together. | | I know the FreeBSD site is great! It's quick, it's links are set out | nicely, but it isn't attractive to the big-end of town. | This is a very big failing. It needs to be addressed. I think that the maintainers of the freebsd.org site would be making a=20 mistake in changing the layout of their site. It is highly functional and= =20 organized, which may not mean much to management droids, but means a great= =20 deal to those of us who actually use the OS on a daily basis. Perhaps your site can fill the void for those who aren't attracted to the=20 stock FreeBSD site. | I'm just trying to help by coming up with ideas, instead of shooting down | others,and complaining all the time. | | The sooner FreeBSD takes on a professional image, the sooner it'll get | accepted and treated as a professional solution. | | Yes, it's wrong, but it's how life is. What is truly wrong are people who redefine their own world to match what=20 they think others want to see, rather than doing what they themselves=20 believe to be right. Like it or not, the world is what we (you, me, everyone) make it, not what= =20 others tell us it is. =2D-=20 Mike perl -e 'print unpack("u","88V]N=3D&%C=3D\"!I;F9O(&EN(&AE861E