From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 7 00:13:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E68EF427; Thu, 7 Nov 2013 00:13:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9A872A9A; Thu, 7 Nov 2013 00:13:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.15]) by ltcfislmsgpa06.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id rA70DqfW017016 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 6 Nov 2013 18:13:52 -0600 Received: from LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com ([169.254.1.152]) by LTCFISWMSGHT04.FNFIS.com ([10.132.206.15]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Wed, 6 Nov 2013 18:13:50 -0600 From: "Teske, Devin" To: Glen Barber Subject: Re: [Review] bsdconfig pkgng integration Thread-Topic: [Review] bsdconfig pkgng integration Thread-Index: AQHO2x6RJrucrqXds0+MgGctNGb1Bg== Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 00:13:49 +0000 Message-ID: <31C96E68-1503-4433-A286-288CADCBAD23@fisglobal.com> References: <527ACA8E.7010301@allanjude.com> <21C1BAD8-DC2F-4338-9AE5-28B28B64C933@fisglobal.com> <527ACE7B.6090002@allanjude.com> <20131106233218.GF1761@glenbarber.us> <39DE2EDF-69F3-43C5-AEDE-7A5399AC2859@fisglobal.com> <20131106234417.GG1761@glenbarber.us> <20131107000124.GH1761@glenbarber.us> In-Reply-To: <20131107000124.GH1761@glenbarber.us> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.132.253.120] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_5C38EEB8-0F7E-444D-B101-04ADDBC2B13A"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-11-06_06:2013-11-06,2013-11-06,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: Devin Teske , "Teske, Devin" , " Current" X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2013 00:13:56 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_5C38EEB8-0F7E-444D-B101-04ADDBC2B13A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Nov 6, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Glen Barber wrote: > On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 11:53:28PM +0000, Teske, Devin wrote: >>> And if we need to change something with the infrastructure, we now have >>> to tell people that this was done. You are putting hard-coded >>> limitations on us. Don't. >>> >> >> I disagree. >> >> You're making the argument for "what if a CDN goes away". >> > > No, you are thinking about it backwards. > > If a node goes down (there is no "CDN"), we take it out of DNS. > A single entry, removed from the pkg.FreeBSD.org SRV record. We do not > have to redirect anything, we do not have to update various > configuration files in various places in the tree. > Please help me to understand why on Earth you think: "[I am] putting hard-coded limitations on [you]" The facts: 1. The DNS names I am talking about: 1.a. pkg.f.o 1.b. pkg.eu.f.o 2. Do not resolve to an A or AAAA record So what hard-coding are you talking about? You talk about how "if a node goes down we take it out of DNS" but that has absolutely nothing to do with me because I'm not putting A/AAAA-resolving names in the menu. You do realize don't you that pkg.eu.f.o is a locale-specific name that will eventually hold potentially many-more European server names, right? You do realize that the actual European server is *NOT* pkg.eu, right? You do realize that while the name pkg.f.o may wholly encompass all the mirrors, that this will not always be true, right? I have no idea what you're talking about with the updating of config files. The only reason you would ever have to update a config file is if pkg.eu.f.o went away, but ... Now I will repeat... pkg.eu.f.o is NOT A REAL SERVER It is a name, that resolves to the SRV record of the European server. That being said... that name should not go away unless we no longer have even one single server in Europe. Oh, and by the way... The name "pkg.f.o" does *NOT* resolve to "pkg.eu"... pkg.eu is a sibling name that is disassociated -- it was actually *designed* to be used for this. -- Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. 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