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Date:      Fri, 14 Aug 2020 05:54:23 +0000
From:      Rick Macklem <rmacklem@uoguelph.ca>
To:        Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
Cc:        Kirk McKusick <mckusick@mckusick.com>, "freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org" <freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: can buffer cache pages be used in ext_pgs mbufs?
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In-Reply-To: <20200811175422.GP2551@kib.kiev.ua>
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Konstantin Belousov wrote:=0A=
>On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 03:10:39AM +0000, Rick Macklem wrote:=0A=
>> Konstantin Belousov wrote:=0A=
>> >On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 12:46:00AM +0000, Rick Macklem wrote:=0A=
>> >> Konstantin Belousov wrote:=0A=
>> >> >On Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 09:43:14PM -0700, Kirk McKusick wrote:=0A=
>> >> >> I do not have the answer to your question, but I am copying Kostik=
=0A=
>> >> >> as if anyone knows the answer, it is probably him.=0A=
>> >> >>=0A=
>> >> >>       ~Kirk=0A=
>> >> >>=0A=
>> >> >> =3D-=3D-=3D=0A=
>> >> >I do not know the exact answer, this is why I did not followed up on=
 the=0A=
>> >> >original question on current@.  In particular, I have no idea about =
the=0A=
>> >> >ext_pgs mechanism.=0A=
>> >> >=0A=
>> >> >Still I can point one semi-obvious aspect of your proposal.=0A=
>> >> >=0A=
>> >> >When the buffer is written (with bwrite()), its pages are sbusied an=
d=0A=
>> >> >the write mappings of them are invalidated. The end effect is that n=
o=0A=
>> >> >modifications to the pages are possible until they are unbusied. Thi=
s,=0A=
>> >> >together with the lock of the buffer that holds the pages, effective=
ly=0A=
>> >> >stops all writes either through write(2) or by mmaped regions.=0A=
>> >> >=0A=
>> >> >In other words, any access for write to the range of file designated=
 by=0A=
>> >> >the buffer, causes the thread to block until the pages are unbusied =
and=0A=
>> >> >the buffer is unlocked.  Which in described case would mean, until N=
FS=0A=
>> >> >server responds.=0A=
>> >> >=0A=
>> >> >If this is fine, then ok.=0A=
>> >> For what I am thinking of, I would say that is fine, since the ktls c=
ode reads=0A=
>> >> the pages to encrypt/send them, but can use other allocated pages for=
=0A=
>> >> the encrypted data.=0A=
>> >>=0A=
>> >> >Rick, do you know anything about the vm page lifecycle as mb_ext_pgs=
 ?=0A=
>> >> Well, the anonymous pages (the only ones I've been using sofar) are=
=0A=
>> >> allocated with:=0A=
>> >>         vm_page_alloc(NULL, 0, VM_ALLOC_NORMAL | VM_ALLOC_NOOBJ |=0A=
>> >>                VM_ALLOC_NODUMP | VM_ALLOC_WIRED);=0A=
>> >>=0A=
>> >> and then the m_ext_ext_free function (mb_free_mext_pgs()) does:=0A=
>> >>         vm_page_unwire_noq(pg);=0A=
>> >>         vm_page_free(pg);=0A=
>> >> on each of them.=0A=
>> >>=0A=
>> >> m->m_ext_ext_free() is called in tls_encrypt() when it no longer want=
s the=0A=
>> >> pages, but is normally called via m_free(m), which calls mb_free_extp=
g(m),=0A=
>> >> although there are a few other places.=0A=
>> >>=0A=
>> >> Since m_ext_ext_free is whatever function you want to make it, I supp=
ose the=0A=
>> >> answer is "until your m_ext.ext_free" function is called.=0A=
>> >>=0A=
>> >> At this time, for ktls, if you are using software encryption, the cal=
l to ktls_encrypt(),=0A=
>> >> which is done before passing the mbufs down to TCP is when it is done=
 with the=0A=
>> >> unencrypted data pages. (I suppose there is no absolute guarantee tha=
t this=0A=
>> >> happens before the kernel RPC layer times out waiting for an RPC repl=
y, but it=0A=
>> >> is almost inconceivable, since this happens before the RPC request is=
 passed=0A=
>> >> down to TCP.)=0A=
>> >>=0A=
>> >> The case I now think is more problematic is the "hardware assist" cas=
e. Although=0A=
>> >> no hardware/driver yet does this afaik, I suspect that the unencrypte=
d data page=0A=
>> >> mbufs could end up stuck in TCP for a long time, in case a retransmit=
 is needed.=0A=
>> >>=0A=
>> >> So, I now think I might need to delay the bufdone() call until the m_=
ext_ext_free()=0A=
>> >> call has been done for the pages, if they are buffer cache pages?=0A=
>> >> --> Usually I would expect the m_ext_ext_free() call for the mbuf(s) =
that=0A=
>> >>        hold the data to be written to the server to be done long befo=
re=0A=
>> >>        bufdone() would be called for the buffer that is being written=
,=0A=
>> >>        but there is no guarantee.=0A=
>> >>=0A=
>> >> Am I correct in assuming that the pages for the buffer will remain va=
lid and=0A=
>> >> readable through the direct map until bufdone() is called?=0A=
>> >> If I am correct w.r.t. this, it should work so long as the m_ext_ext_=
free() calls=0A=
>> >> for the pages happen before the bufdone() call on the bp, I think?=0A=
>> >=0A=
>> >I think there is further complication with non-anonymous pages.=0A=
>> >You want (or perhaps need) the page content to be immutable and not=0A=
>> >changed while you pass pages around and give the for ktls sw or hw=0A=
>> >processing.  Otherwise it could not pass the TLS authentification if=0A=
>> >page was changed in process.=0A=
>> >=0A=
>> >Similar issue exists when normal buffer writes are scheduled through=0A=
>> >the strategy(), and you can see that bufwrite() does vfs_busy_pages()=
=0A=
>> >with clear_modify=3D1, which does two things:=0A=
>> >- sbusy the pages (sbusy pages can get new read-only mappings, but cann=
ot=0A=
>> >  be mapped rw)=0A=
>> >- pmap_remove_write() on the pages to invalidate all current writeable=
=0A=
>> >  mappings.=0A=
>> >=0A=
>> >This state should be kept until ktls is completely done with the pages.=
=0A=
>> I am now thinking that this is done exactly as you describe above and=0A=
>> doesn't require any changes.=0A=
>>=0A=
>> The change I am planning is below the strategy routine in the function=
=0A=
>> that does the write RPC.=0A=
>> It currently copies the data from the buffer into mbuf clusters.=0A=
>> After this change, it would put the physical page #s for the buffer in t=
he=0A=
>> mbuf(s) and then wait for them all to be m_ext_ext_free()d before callin=
g=0A=
>> bufdone().=0A=
>> --> The only difference is the wait before the bufdone() call in the RPC=
 layer=0A=
>>        below the strategy routine. (bufdone() is the only call the NFS c=
lient=0A=
>>        seems to do below the strategy routine, so I assume it ends the s=
tate=0A=
>>        you describe above?)=0A=
>>=0A=
>As far as pages are put into mbuf clusters only after bwrite() that=0A=
>did vfs_busy_pages(), and bufdone() is called not earlier than network=0A=
>finished with the mbufs, it should be ok.=0A=
I've coded it up and, at least for a little testing sofar, it seems to work=
 ok.=0A=
=0A=
Thanks for your comments, rick=0A=



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