From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 1 01:43:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4692D16A418; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 01:43:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.org (trang.nuxi.org [74.95.12.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D2CB13C467; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 01:43:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l811hNXg041790; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:43:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l811hN9O041788; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:43:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:43:23 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: JoaoBR Message-ID: <20070901014323.GA41683@dragon.NUXI.org> Mail-Followup-To: obrien@freebsd.org, JoaoBR , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Roman Divacky , pluknet , =?unknown-8bit?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= References: <-3502020561049594852@unknownmsgid> <200708312032.21574.joao@matik.com.br> <20070901000710.GA12223@dragon.NUXI.org> <200708312120.31912.joao@matik.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200708312120.31912.joao@matik.com.br> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Roman Divacky , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, pluknet , =?unknown-8bit?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= Subject: Re: Adding k9 and k10 to bsd.cpu.mk X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 01:43:48 -0000 On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 09:20:30PM -0300, JoaoBR wrote: > On Friday 31 August 2007 21:07:10 David O'Brien wrote: > > > opterons are not easy but it is already kind of advanced cpu so > > > could be > > > > Why are Opteron's any harder? > > because all of them are 64bit but some older ones are not SSE3 capable, < 250 > I guess now but 252 is but not 100% sure It's not Opteron model # specific - but silicon revision specific. There are rev C0 model 250's, along with rev CG, and rev E. Same for athlon64 - older ones don't support SSE3, newer ones do. > people 'kind of familiarly' with reading manuals and specs are already > having difficulties here so imagin an average user (unkndefspec) who > likes to optimize his kernel (his cpu's kernel of course :) ) > > so as far as there are a cpu options for a freebsd kernel they should > be understandable so it might be worse thinking well before doing > (=less support = less questions = less problemas) BTW, the AMD offically sanctioned spelling for GCC 'march' is "amdfam10" -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top-posting (putting a reply at the top of the message) frowned upon? Let's not play "Jeopardy-style quoting"