From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 00:03:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A16CDD6; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 00:03:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECD5B2D55; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 00:03:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s6Q03H5K030342 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 25 Jul 2014 18:03:17 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s6Q03Gd1030339; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 18:03:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 18:03:16 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Craig Rodrigues Subject: Re: HOWTO articles for migrating from Linux to FreeBSD, especially for pkg? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201407252126.s6PLQ5G2086889@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 25 Jul 2014 18:03:17 -0600 (MDT) Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 Cc: Garrett Wollman , FreeBSD Current X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 00:03:19 -0000 On Fri, 25 Jul 2014, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > In article you write: > > >Writing "an article" is hard.  Writing a small section on how deleting > >packages is different between pkg and, say, apt, is much easier.  The > >scope is known. > > Indeed, it's pretty trivial. > > I think the sort of article Craig was looking for was more on the > order of > >         apt command             pkg command >         apt-get update          pkg update (*1) >         ...                     ... > > (*1) Explanation of differences between how apt behaves and how pkg > behaves. > > The set of common apt operations is pretty well-known, and most of > them have direct pkg(8) equivalents. > > > > Garrett is describing exactly what I am looking for. > > I'm not looking for a complicated article explaining the internal > differences between apt and pkg.  Very few people have the > interest or patience to read that. > > Providing a simple table contrasting the basic apt/yum/rpm/pkg commands > for installing/upgrading/deleting packages is mostly what is needed. This gave me a flashback to the last time somebody said "Oh, I just want a simple little program." :) > We need to show people that installing packages on FreeBSD is > not like the "bad old pkg_add days" which people have bad memories of.  We need to show that pkg is as good as what people are used to on modern Linux > distributions. The wiki should be ideal for this. Start a table, fill in what you can, and others can fill in the other parts. From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 02:46:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14CE5616; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 02:46:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-out-02.shaw.ca (smtp-out-02.shaw.ca [64.59.136.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA50328C9; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 02:46:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.1 cv=UbGOdjJMTOnDdlSKs4VLEv47Nwxh2hlhayjdFxkzNJk= c=1 sm=1 a=7V3fggXvsmQA:10 a=QrugwKR0C_UA:10 a=wAGQQ9Az6v0A:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=ICAaq7hcmGcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=IbtKDeXwb2+SRU442/pi3A==:17 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=BWvPGDcYAAAA:8 a=jn4Z1P99xdyqle8XhOAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=RgXXd5XzHKoA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=V7tsTZBp22UA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO spqr.komquats.com) ([96.50.7.119]) by smtp-out-02.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 25 Jul 2014 20:46:34 -0600 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy [10.1.1.91]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52EBA56F; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 19:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s6Q2kXdV013283; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 19:46:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@komquats.com) Received: from slippy (cy@localhost) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.14.9/8.14.8/Submit) with ESMTP id s6Q2kX7n013280; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 19:46:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@komquats.com) Message-Id: <201407260246.s6Q2kX7n013280@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Authentication-Warning: slippy.cwsent.com: cy owned process doing -bs X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.6 Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.komquats.com/ To: Cy Schubert , Glen Barber , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report - Second Quarter 2014 In-Reply-To: Message from Edward Tomasz =?utf-8?Q?Napiera=C5=82a?= of "Fri, 25 Jul 2014 23:12:49 +0200." <20140725211249.GA3933@brick.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 19:46:33 -0700 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 02:46:43 -0000 In message <20140725211249.GA3933@brick.home>, Edward Tomasz =?utf-8?Q?Napiera= C5=82a?= writes: > On 0725T1019, Cy Schubert wrote: > > In message <20140724183353.GL1065@hub.FreeBSD.org>, Glen Barber writes: > > > New Automounter > > > > > > Contact: Edward Tomasz Napieral/a > > > > > > Deficiencies in the current automounter, amd(8), are a recurring > > > problem reported by many FreeBSD users. A new automounter is being > > > developed to address these concerns. > > > > > > The automounter is a cleanroom implementation of functionality > > > available in most other Unix systems, using proper kernel support > > > implemented via an autofs filesystem. The automounter supports a > > > standard map format, and will integrate with the Lightweight Directory > > > Access Protocol (LDAP) service. > > > > Will it also integrate with NIS (as SunOS and Solaris do)? FreeBSD's amd > > currently integrates with NIS as well. > > It's just a matter of testing, apart from a trivial shell script. > Would you be able to help me with this? > Sure! Just point me in the direction of the patches. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.