From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 21 09:11:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB48DB4E for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 09:11:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp1.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981F08FC0A for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 09:10:59 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=f43K9ZOM c=1 sm=0 a=Dm9TOXL4taQ+Gy1KovpL+A==:17 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=9YQ-1ebCAAAA:8 a=Hz0Dtrm5_sgA:10 a=ST0XkMQ9GubENzj--dQA:9 a=Dm9TOXL4taQ+Gy1KovpL+A==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp01.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.130.198.7 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.130.198.7] ([74.130.198.7:43902] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTP id 19/B4-17144-D1CB3805; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 05:10:53 -0400 Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 05:10:53 -0400 Message-ID: <19.B4.17144.D1CB3805@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9.1 and intel graphics X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 09:11:01 -0000 Normally I start X by startx which may be followed by an initialization file, so I don't get the default spartan default twm all the time. In Linux and FreeBSD, I generally use X as nonroot. So I don't really know how to start a program such as xterm as another user or how to have both root and nonroot windows in X. On trying to exit X with the KMS driver in FreeBSD, I never got that far, however I'm having snags in updating my ports, am at an impasse now, got Error 70 in the latest case and don't know what that means. But I have experience typing in the dark in NetBSD, not all X-related, and have successfully typed "shutdown -r now" with nothing showing on the screen. Tom