From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 10 08:51:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C1316A403 for ; Wed, 10 May 2006 08:51:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C015443D46 for ; Wed, 10 May 2006 08:51:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k4A8ppx63317; Wed, 10 May 2006 01:51:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" , "FreeBSD Questions Mailing List" Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 01:51:51 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 In-Reply-To: <9DF2732A-2B19-4DE5-8FBB-5AAA793D3134@shire.net> Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: New FreeBSD Logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 08:51:55 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chad Leigh -- >Shire.Net LLC >Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:58 PM >To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List >Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo > > > >On May 9, 2006, at 11:34 PM, Björn König wrote: > >> Lawrence Horvath schrieb: >> >>> I quite like the new logo, i think the new one is far more >>> professional then the old one, though i liked them both. >> >> I would say that there isn't an old one. Beastie is a little bit >> older than FreeBSD and I would understand it as mascot, not as a >> logo. So the new logo is not a replacement, but rather something >> that is missing for many years; and Beastie is still alive. > >And doesn't beastie represent the complete *BSD family, not just >FreeBSD? > No, the original BSD representation (http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/jpg/foglio.jpg) included many devils, not looking at all like Beastie. The famous "classic" artwork that most of the successive representations have been based on was the 4.3BSD daemon drawn by John Lasseter. It also didn't hurt that John went on to do Toy Story and so on. Many BSD variants have used variations of the Lasseter artwork simply because it was such a good image, it captured the essense of BSD at the time - bursting onto the scene yet still fragile and young. But not all BSD variants used and use Beastie. BSDI only used him a few times, OpenBSD uses the blowfish, not Beastie, NetBSD uses the flag. Although, both NetBSD and OpenBSD have used modified Beastie images in the past. The sad truth is that FreeBSD has really gone way downhill in the logo department. We traded in a logo drawn by a true professional who is one of the famous great graphic artists of our time, for a amateur ping-pong ball drawn by a nobody in a nickel and dime contest. Ted