From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 28 05:41:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0197E16A4E2 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 05:41:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zardoc.esmtp.org (adsl-63-195-85-27.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.195.85.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899AB43D1D for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 05:41:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ca+envelope@esmtp.org) Received: from zardoc.esmtp.org (localhost.endmail.org. [127.0.0.1]) by zardoc.esmtp.org (sendmail X.0.0.PreAlpha16s) with ESMTP (TLS) id S000000000002454200; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 22:42:18 -0700 Received: (from ca@localhost) by zardoc.esmtp.org (8.13.0/8.12.10.Beta0/Submit) id i8S5gIFY025659 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 22:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 22:42:18 -0700 From: Claus Assmann To: current@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040928054217.GA18708@zardoc.esmtp.org> Mail-Followup-To: current@freebsd.org References: <16728.36042.147168.928629@satchel.alerce.com> <1096323166.43375.8.camel@server.mcneil.com> <86fz5341hh.fsf@kamino.rfc1149.org> <20040927.225056.85393812.imp@bsdimp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040927.225056.85393812.imp@bsdimp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: real keyboard (was: Re: Laptop recommendations?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 05:41:18 -0000 On Mon, Sep 27, 2004, M. Warner Losh wrote: > Happy Hacking Keyboard is to die for. It is the one true keyboard > layout and all this PC, Johnny-come-lately crowd who F*D up a > perfectly good keyboard layout can rot in h*** for all I care. The I have two of those, but both of them already show wear; after just 4 years some keys, esp. "Shift", sometimes get stuck for a brief moment. IMHO the quality isn't anyway near those older Sun keyboards or the NCD keyboard I have at work, which is connected to a PC. That is almost the real thing (Sun Type 5?) and it works flawlessly for over 6 years (well, I had to remap most of the "special" keys, and the function keys don't work during boot, but who needs that with a real OS?). Unfortunately nobody seems to sell those anymore. Are there any other "real" (Unix/Sun type) keyboards that can be connected to a PC (without USB if possible)? [this is certainly off-topic for freebsd-current, would freebsd-hardware be better?]