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Cc: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net>, arch@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: Removing CVS from HEAD
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Hi,

On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 17:01:17 -0700
Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org> wrote:

> On 9/9/2012 4:55 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > I would suggest to keep it in the system and announce its end when
> > older system like 8.x or 9.x are at the end of their life time.
> 
> I think you misunderstand the proposal. No one is suggesting removing
> CVS from FreeBSD 7, 8, or 9. It will _only_ be removed from what is
> now HEAD, which will eventually be 10.0-RELEASE.
> 
this is how I understand it. The problem I see is from the end-user
perspective. They will upgrade to 10 and suddenly everything they
developed stops working.

I would suggest to start from the infrastructure side by getting more
mirrors for the new system while phasing the mirrors for the old system
out.

Users are then not forced to make the sudden change.

Please do not tell me that they should read UPDATING. They only will
after they ran into trouble.

Erich