From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 13 08:21:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F09D16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:21:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from VARK.MIT.EDU (VARK.MIT.EDU [18.95.3.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3937543D31 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:21:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from VARK.MIT.EDU (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VARK.MIT.EDU (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j1D8LTVg068374; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 03:21:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from das@localhost) by VARK.MIT.EDU (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j1D8LTM2068373; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 03:21:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 03:21:29 -0500 From: David Schultz To: Jason Henson Message-ID: <20050213082128.GA68307@VARK.MIT.EDU> Mail-Followup-To: Jason Henson , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG References: <1108277558l.86500l.0l@BARTON> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1108277558l.86500l.0l@BARTON> cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: malloc vs ptmalloc2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:21:36 -0000 On Sun, Feb 13, 2005, Jason Henson wrote: > I saw on a few of the lists here how linux uses ptmalloc2 and it > outperforms bsd's malloc. I tried to do some research into it and > found PHK's pdf on it and it seems bsd's malloc was ment to be ok in > most every situation. Because of this it shines when primary storage is > seriously over committed. > > So here is my question, I use FreeBSD as a desktop and never ever use > swap(I just don't stress my system enough?), can I use ptmalloc in > stead of malloc? Like defining SCHED_ULE instead of SCHED_4BSD. Can > the system malloc be switched out? With a little bit of work, you should be able to replace src/lib/libc/stdlib/malloc.c. ptmalloc is much more heavyweight, but it would probably do better in cases where you have a large number of threads doing a massive number of malloc/free operations on a multiprocessor system. Other than that, I don't know enough details about ptmalloc to speculate, except to say that for most real-world workloads on modern systems, the impact of the malloc implementation is likely to be negligible. Of course, test results would be interesting...