From nobody Thu Jul 24 19:36:11 2025 X-Original-To: dev-commits-src-main@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bp1TC2BDJz635Ym; Thu, 24 Jul 2025 19:36:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from omta003.cacentral1.a.cloudfilter.net (omta001.cacentral1.a.cloudfilter.net [3.97.99.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bp1TB1WnSz3t08; Thu, 24 Jul 2025 19:36:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of cy.schubert@cschubert.com designates 3.97.99.32 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=cy.schubert@cschubert.com; dmarc=permerror reason="p tag has invalid value: quarantine rua=mailto:p[ostmaster@cschubert.com" header.from=cschubert.com (policy=permerror) Received: from shw-obgw-4001a.ext.cloudfilter.net ([10.228.9.142]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPS id erdyuM0LD9JM2f1jhuGx4e; Thu, 24 Jul 2025 19:36:13 +0000 Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([70.66.136.217]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPSA id f1jguuBoUWX70f1jgu0TOc; Thu, 24 Jul 2025 19:36:13 +0000 X-Auth-User: cschuber X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=d71WygjE c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=68828b2d a=h7br+8Ma+Xn9xscxy5znUg==:117 a=h7br+8Ma+Xn9xscxy5znUg==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Wb1JkmetP80A:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=EkcXrb_YAAAA:8 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=YRnX3NmYjSGvsK8fIC8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=LK5xJRSDVpKd5WXXoEvA:22 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy [10.1.1.91]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A971088; Thu, 24 Jul 2025 12:36:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slippy.cwsent.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5FEAB54F; Thu, 24 Jul 2025 12:36:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.9.0 11/07/2018 with nmh-1.8+dev Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.cschubert.com/ To: Cy Schubert , src-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git: 962876cc24ee - main - UPDATING: Note the Kerberos package rename (c7da9fb90b0b) In-reply-to: References: <202507241824.56OIO88s005888@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <20250724190526.2F85A642@slippy.cwsent.com> Comments: In-reply-to Lexi Winter message dated "Thu, 24 Jul 2025 20:25:14 +0100." List-Id: Commit messages for the main branch of the src repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-src-main List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org Sender: owner-dev-commits-src-main@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2025 12:36:11 -0700 Message-Id: <20250724193611.5FEAB54F@slippy.cwsent.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfKhuQBf8B+m/O6YpMN5awKv8DTunGsW/mQrEQZYy5lyfOWo+gdlO4i12Dv0GI9sZGHa63N+gJtkBukXOIFppAxvyDUy8i/Ngz8x4afLeoa9mr7MZsoiT /+0yxlE1F1CUh4cThC7pqVAD14hRpQ6qRiRu4WdYvXE+neF/ndElb/I6RVsxie3edOm7IyKV/dSlZTlgkUmWpc7y45uqkbvC7IZKC+8i/+UL6I05duDCTCWn 9FlqZTZfiwV5fk7yuMdijxmGh2d66znyuTyYLiXT4PMs9b+Q4ky1aNhI4AaRj/oZokXlg1nwG8oaXArJ5rGBFA== X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.19 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.73)[0.726]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:3.97.99.32/31]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[3.97.99.32:from]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.02)[-0.016]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16509, ipnet:3.96.0.0/15, country:US]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_BAD_POLICY(0.00)[cschubert.com : p tag has invalid value: quarantine rua=mailto:p[ostmaster@cschubert.com]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org,dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bp1TB1WnSz3t08 X-Spamd-Bar: / In message , Lexi Winter writes: > > > --/cJljwJYtPl3uHOB > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > hi Cy, > > Cy Schubert: > > In message <202507241824.56OIO88s005888@gitrepo.freebsd.org>, Lexi Winter= > =20 > > writes: > > > UPDATING: Note the Kerberos package rename (c7da9fb90b0b) > =20 > > Shouldn't this be the other way around? Heimdal is FreeBSD-kerberos while= > =20 > > MIT is FreeBSD-krb5. I objected to the name change because it could cause= > =20 > > people to assume they were one in the same. > > although i understand you objected to D51420, i landed it anyway[0] > which means the packages are back to their old names and there are > no more FreeBSD-krb5* packages. > > let me explain why i did this: > > - the change to the package names caused friction both inside the > project (e.g., it broke the OCI build scripts) and outside the > project (according to reports i received from downstream users). > > - it was not clear there is any advantage to renaming the packages. > > - due to above i was specifically asked to land this commit by several > people, including a pkgbase maintainer, and one of my mentors at the > time. > > - i considered this a reasonable course of action because this restored > the previous status quo and undid a change that (as far as i'm aware) > hadn't been reviewed by #pkgbase, so in case of doubt, i erred on the > side of restoring the previous behaviour. > > i apologise for reverting your code over your stated objections but now > that we are back to the previous behaviour, we can discuss whether to > rename these packages, which i suggest doing via a Phabricator review > that includes #pkgbase. No offense taken. I'm ok if those using the packages understand fully. Do people want /usr/src/krb5 renamed to /usr/src/kerberos5 when Heimdal is removed? I'm open to this. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: https://FreeBSD.org NTP: Web: https://nwtime.org e**(i*pi)+1=0