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Date:      Sat, 01 Oct 2022 02:55:12 +1000
From:      Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au>
To:        David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: concerns about install freebsd
Message-ID:  <BE9791F1-1762-4302-8807-E30A53226F89@nimnet.asn.au>
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On 30 September 2022 5:25:39 pm AEST, David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdan=
ske=2Ecom> wrote:
 > On 9/29/22 22:16, Ian Smith wrote:
 > > On 30 September 2022 6:07:47 am AEST, David Christensen
 > <dpchrist@holgerdanske=2Ecom> wrote:
 > >   > On 9/28/22 23:04, jian he wrote:

[=2E=2E=2E]

 > >   > > Now, which one should I choose: bootonly=2Eiso or disc=2Eiso or
 > >   > > dvd1=2Eiso?
 > >=20
 > >   > Many newer machines do not have an optical drive, and USB flash
 > >   > drives
 > >   > have much faster access times, so I use "memstick=2Eimg":
 > >   >
 > >   > FreeBSD-13=2E1-RELEASE-amd64-memstick=2Eimg=2Exz

 > > Since 12=2E1 and 13=2E0 (amd64 only) you can dd(1) the {-disc1, -dvd1
 > > or -bootonly}=2Eiso to a USB memstick=2E
 > >=20
 > > See the Release Announcement:
 > https://www=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/releases/13=2E1R/announce/ (or e=2Eg=2E /12=
=2E3R/)

 > Okay=2E  Having a -dvd1 ISO on a USB flash drive could be useful when=
=20
 > installing without an Internet connection=2E

It should be=2E  It was broken on 12=2E3R and presumably before, due to a =
bad symlink on the dvd1=2Eiso, and needing so far three patches to bsdconfi=
g, if hoping to use that=2E

Once fixed, it's a useful dialog(1) based interface to the included pkg re=
po, reminiscent of sysinstall in its heyday, if you like KDE 5 or Gnome on =
top of your Xorg=2E

For much too long a story on getting that working, see
https://forums=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/threads/installing-freebsd-12-3-from-dvd1-u=
sb-without-network=2E84838/

I've yet to find out if it's been fixed on 13, and I'm still _slightly_ ho=
peful of getting some committer help in fixing it for 12=2E4, which enters =
code slush in a week=2E

 > One of things I like about the FreeBSD memstick image is that I can=20
 > insert the USB flash drive into a FreeBSD computer, mount the root=20
 > filesystem read-write, and make changes to the installer=2E  (E=2Eg=2E =
by=20
 > using the 5% spare blocks in the root filesystem=2E)  I doubt this
 > trick=20
 > will work with a "hybrid ISO" on a USB flash drive=2E

Most likely right; it still mounts as a cd9660 filesystem and it's none to=
o clear where the data lives=2E  OTOH, none if my laptops over the years ha=
s had only one USB port, and sticks are literally "cheap as chips" now=2E

<code>
root@t430s:~ # gpart show -p da0 da1
=3D>       3  15646709    da0  GPT  (7=2E5G)
         3        25  da0p2  freebsd-boot  (13K)
        28        52         - free -  (26K)
        80      1600  da0p1  efi  (800K)
      1680  15645032         - free -  (7=2E5G)

=3D>      63  60620737    da1  MBR  (29G)
        63         1         - free -  (512B)
        64  60620736  da1s1  fat32lba  (29G)

root@t430s:~ # mount -p | grep /m
/dev/da0                /media                  cd9660  ro              0 =
0
/dev/da1s1              /mnt                    msdosfs rw              0 =
0

root@t430s:~ # df | grep /m
/dev/da0       4386668  4386668        0   100%    /media
/dev/da1s1    30295568     1696 30293872     0%    /mnt
</code>

cheers, Ian



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